Tubermeister wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:10 pm
Okay. Even though the Nitro Team is interesting board I found a B-grade Amplid Milligram for 520€ and couldn't resist. Should be good
Anyone interested in Europe, Amplid has dome B-grade stock at their website for good prices.
Nice, I have the Millisurf and love it.
But not sure the Milligram it is a great fit for this:
Tubermeister wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:39 pm
I would like to have a twinish split when riding in resorts (Alps) and not knowing if I am going to even need to skin up.
Milligram obviously has a tail but it still is really quite directional. More importantly the Milligram construction boards are somewhat fragile. Lightweight is great on the way up, but it is clear that compromises were made - and Amplid expressly acknowledges that in the product documentation.
Again, I love mine but for resort riding with the occasional skin up I would want something more solid.
sunokeru wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:45 pmMilligram obviously has a tail but it still is really quite directional. More importantly the Milligram construction boards are somewhat fragile. Lightweight is great on the way up, but it is clear that compromises were made - and Amplid expressly acknowledges that in the product documentation.
Again, I love mine but for resort riding with the occasional skin up I would want something more solid.
Yes, that is what I am worried about the most. I know something like Tour Operator would have been better from Amplid. But I just couldn't resist the price. And from time to time I also tour with people who are way faster than me on the way up, so this helps
And looking at the specs and handling the board, Milligram doesn't look too directional. At least it's less directional than my Nitro Banker (although couple of mm more taper) and I am happy with that.
Edit: This is my other split for bigger lines. It has about 10,5 m side cut radius, so it's not the most agile in a resort. But it can charge
I have had a couple Milligrams, and they're pretty directional. They may only have 6mm of taper and a fairly popsicle stickish shape, but the core profile/flex pattern is quite directional.
Lonz wrote: Tue Mar 21, 2023 10:37 am
I have had a couple Milligrams, and they're pretty directional. They may only have 6mm of taper and a fairly popsicle stickish shape, but the core profile/flex pattern is quite directional.
Ok. Thanks for the info. I just hope the nose, or even the whole board, is not too soft
When I said twinish, I meant something not pow shape, not swallow tail, but regular snowboard without too much set back. I am not riding a lot switch with the split after all, at least not in powder apart from some landings etc. The Team split is probably a bit too twin for most use cases, but still I'm interested in it and want to try it at some point.
And I realize full well Milligram might not be the best tool for the job and there is a chance I might not even like it. But in that case I can sell it with not much of a loss and try something else. It was -60 % off with full warranty after all, so easy choice. But now I'm a bit hesitant if I should've just gone with the Team split, even though I can't find any user experience from it.
It isn't a soft board, so I wouldn't worry about that. I bet you'll love it, as it's way more energetic than any other split I've ridden, and carbon splits feel really precise. The thing tours extremely well, and the topsheet tech really does work to shed snow, which saves energy.
carbon boards do have a more noisy board feel, though, and break much more easily, so you'll want to be a little less sendy than you may otherwise be. I cracked one Milligram jumping off very medium-sized drops into pow, but I also ride Phantoms, which create pretty sharp stress risers and are known to be harder on boards. I'm sure that there are people putting 100+ days on Milligrams, but I only got about 30 on that one before I broke it.
I also have a Weston Carbon Backwoods, and that GP87 construction with the aluminum stringers seems tougher, in my experience. Next year's Telos Lemurian in the new carbon construction with the aluminum stringers and the D3O dampening looks to be the tits. The Stranda carbon Descender also looks awesome, IMO.
pow_hnd wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:16 pm
Alright. Got out on my first day with the Vans Verse Range Edition Splitboard boots.
Holy Fuck.
You never know what you’re missing until you know, damn have I been missing out. The boots are incredible, the lengthened stride is so much more than I thought it would be, like I didn’t fully comprehend how impactful it is until I had it.
I’m super stoked Vans came out with these because 32 and Burton boots don’t work for my feet at all and these Vans fit super well. I got custom footbeds made and then just rode them with no fitting. Probably after a few more tours I’ll go back to the shop and get a bit of fitting done.
Which ever brand of boots work for your feet, if you haven’t tried split specific boots, I highly recommend it.
This is legitimately the most impactful piece of new tech in any part of my snowboarding kit, resort or backcountry, that I can say I’ve added in at least 10 years easily.
Super glad I got these and didn’t try to go hardboot.
spurist wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:57 pm
Damn yer killing me. As I mentioned a few times here (and the previous EZ) I had and loved the Vans Verse Blake Pauls a few years back but the lasting back then was such that they were way too narrow for my front foot.
Didn't someone here say some time back that some Vans got updated, wider lasting? I'd give them a shot in a second if so. Love my Burton Tourists, but anyways…
Ack… These "Vans Verse Iguchi Range Edition" don't seem to be easily available anywhere I have access to (JA and EU).
What is the weight on these babies? I have a 1st gen (Blake Paul) pair of Verses that is reaching EOL. Loved almost everything about them (including the fit - got narrow feet) except that they are heavy (and the liner power strap is fiddly).
Cross-posting this from the Vans thread: Anybody know where I can source a set of the Vans tongue stiffeners? Do not have the ones for my Verse any longer and they are slowly turning into slippers...
I got the Nitro Team split and finally got it on snow last weekend. I wanted a split for slackcountry splitboarding, when I'm mostly riding in the resort but want to have the option to skin up. I would've preferred a bit more directional shape, but not much. I would actually really like Banker split but understand why they don't do that with the Squash already in the line. I have a 159. I would have probably gotten the 162 if it wasn't so wide and in the resort, I wanted to stay in my preferred widths. Sure there are some other great all mountain splits, but I've had good experiences with Nitro splits and solids and of course the price was a major factor. The Team split is reasonable priced already at full price and with the discounts over the summer I ended up paying 400 € for the board.
Anyway, I got it on snow last weekend in Chamonix and here are my thoughts. The flex is stiffer than the solid version, even though they advertise it as the same. And I don't mean Nitro's flex ratings, I asked Nitro rep about it and they said it would be the same. Good it's not, since the solid Team would be bit too soft for me. On tracked out or otherwise variable snow conditions, I would prefer something hair stiffer still, but mostly it was good. (This comparison is to maybe 2019 model Team, so something might have changed. The shape changed for 2024 at least and the 2023 split had the new shape already. So, I don't know how the new Team rides.)
The Team split has 25 mm setback, but I set the binding even further back for now (maybe total of 40 mm), since we had some new snow. Later in the season I might try the reference and maybe some other stance options. Even with the extra setback I think it rode great. Usually when I ride a split in the resort, I instantly wish I had a solid, but for the few runs I had it on piste, I didn't feel this so much. Off piste it also worked quite well. Sure, it's a twin shape but when conditions are more demanding I usually like that. I don't personally ride so much switch off piste that I would actually need twin shape, so for me the tail and nose shape of something like the Banker would be better. Of course I know that with enough speed I can ride anything in powder.
On the skin track, based on two short climbs, it is as good as anything I've had. It's full camber and reasonably stiff. Can't say much more.
All in all, I was happy with the board. Considering the price I paid, I don't have to worry about hitting rocks as much as I probably would with a more expensive split. I am not saying this is the perfect split for everybody. No. Something more directional would be best for most. But if you like more twinish board, this is a really good option. Of course, these were my first days riding the board and first days riding powder this year and only third and fourth day on board over all, so my feelings might change when I get the season really started. I guess I might want stiffer board mid season, but let's see.
Does anyone have experience with the other split-centered soft boots? I generally ride Burton boots but I don't know if the tourist really has that strong of a touring mode. Also looking at the Nitro TLS series and K2 Waive. I'd check out the Vans but I can't find any options to try them on locally (Denver).
I get heel lift and general fatigue on longer days and approaches on hut trips, so I'm thinking a dedicated walk mode will help the fatigue portion at least.
Salomon Super 8 157, Burton Con Artist 152, Salomon Assassin 156, Union Force (usually)
coleslawed wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:13 pm
I've had my eyes on a Team Split for "regular" split days, and then I can save the Quiver Slash split for actual fresh days.
I think that could work quite well. I've had some days on the Slash split as well and while it really shines in the fresh, it's not the best thing in challenging conditions. And that's where I want something less directional between the contact points. If I didn't already have another split, I think I would be happy with the Team in most situations, at least if I had the 162.
And I might end up using it on the more regular split days too. At least it's lighter than my big mountain split. But time will tell.
