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Re: The boot thread

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Shredder wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:03 pm Looking at a few new boots-
The DC Transcend and K2 Evade.
Anyone have any experience on fit with these two?
@Spenser and @pow_hnd I know you guys have with the Transcend.
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DC boots are by far the best fitting I’ve had.

Part of that reason is that they are softer overall and their stiched liner.

Here’s the deal with boots, everyone’s feet are different, as we all know.

Here’s the other deal with boots, if you have a foot that is hard to fit, go softer.

The stiffer a boot is, the less likely it is to fit well. It has nothing to do with the brand.

Take this simple exercise.

Grab a piece of the burliest burlap fabric you can find, and grab a washcloth. Wrap them around your foot. Bet you a swift kick to the balls that washcloth will full conform to your foot and will go into all the little voids around your ankle bone, Achilles. The burlap won’t, at least not nearly as well.

It’s just a bummer, but that’s the way it is. A boot with a true 5/6 stiffness will always fit better and take boot fitting much better than that boot that is a 9/10 stiffness.

Some people have those feet that are tree stumps and will take up all the volume in a stiff boot. I’m not saying a stiff boot can’t fit some people well. That’s the thing though, not all people have feet that will jive with stiff.

DC have nice plush soft liners that are crazy comfy and fit super well. A soft liner will fit EVERYONE well.

DC doesn’t have any crazy stiff boots. ( anymore )

That’s the rub though, do you like softer boots, or do you love super stiff?

Also, don’t get me started with heat molding, with the exception of punching out the toe box, heat moldable liners really don’t fit well. They are a carry over from the ski industry that sound great in theory, and again for a small part of the population will work great, but for the majority of people they don’t really create a better fit. They may help with comfort if you have weird protruding ankle bones or a bunion or crazy wide toe. But actually fitting better, no. If you have excess volume that needs to be taken up heat molding doesn’t fix that. And in general heat moldable liners, i.e. Intuition are pretty ridged so adding things, jbars etc, has limited effect getting that ridged liner to conform to your ankle.

Take that soft 5/6 stiched liner from DC and start adding boot fitting materials to and that liner conforms to your foot/ankle extremely well will also taking up the volume to keep you locked in place.

It’s a bummer, there’s no perfect boot out there and there never will, because of the obvious variations to the human foot and the fact that some people want stiff ass boots. Some people have the afore mentioned tree stumps for feet and those stiff boot fit well, then there’s the rest of us.

A well trained boot fitter will tell people straight up it’s hard to get both of those things for a huge percentage of people.

When I stopped riding super stiff boots, I finally had the best fitting boots I’d ever had. DC used to make a crazy stiff boots, the Torstein pro model. I bought them and they fit nowhere as good as my T-rice and Judges, the shell and liner was too damn stiff for that boot to fit to my foot’s contours.

So at some point people need to decide what is the most important thing. Stiff or fit.
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pow_hnd wrote: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:48 pm DC have nice plush soft liners that are crazy comfy and fit super well. A soft liner will fit EVERYONE well.
This is part of the reason why the new Nidecker boots are so comfy for pretty much everyone that tries them. The liners are incredibly plush and subsequently work for a ton of different feet.
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I can't stand stiff boots, only medium medium/stiff for me and anything that feels even a little bit like it's inhibiting the forward flex of my ankles is a definite no-go. I rode stiff boots like Drivers and Salomons for many years, but these days boots that are really stiff just feel like I'm riding with a cast on.

But I have buddies that insist on riding super-stiff boots and complain about most boots not being stiff enough. I think that boots are maybe more subject to personal preference variablity than any other piece of your gear, and the preferred stiffness of any particular boot does not reflect the skill level of the rider at all.
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Thanks for the input @pow_hnd I have been running older B SLX for a while now and with no local shop any more its tricky to try on boots. I'm going to have to order a few pairs and try them and send back what doesn't work. I have liked stiffer boots in the past but just want a pair with good fit and comfort now.
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benjinyc wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:02 pmIMG_1114.jpeg
That's the union?
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C.Fuzzy wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:31 pm
benjinyc wrote: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:02 pmIMG_1114.jpeg
That's the union?
Yes
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A single gle boa?

Like... are they even trying?
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C.Fuzzy wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:25 am A single gle boa?

Like... are they even trying?
That’s the kids boot. Adult is dual
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It's the left boot and the BOA dial is on the other side.
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