United Shapes

[SJF_NH]

I rode mine again on New Years Eve, that and the video above shows just how much the Covert wants to turn, it's just super fun.

[azhe]

Just wondering if anyone having owned a Covert split is able to compare it to a Hometown Hero Split. Currently at a crossroads and want to see how they differ if at all.

[Spenser]

Just wondering if anyone having owned a Covert split is able to compare it to a Hometown Hero Split. Currently at a crossroads and want to see how they differ if at all.

A lot of similarities on paper, and there could be some overlap on snow, but I'm betting you can figure out which you might prefer. What exactly do you want in a split?

I'm betting the covert has an edge in float and overall directionality if that's important, but otherwise it's hard to guess. No-brainer for me because I'm not a fan of Burton boards, but that's just me.

[Spenser]

When it just looks "right."

The less-tapered cadet is great, but I would 1000% run this as a daily driver in a solid.

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[scrub]

@spenser that looks sick.

[eleveneightnate]

When it just looks "right."

The less-tapered cadet is great, but I would 1000% run this as a daily driver in a solid.

Ohhhhh she fine.

[azhe]

Just wondering if anyone having owned a Covert split is able to compare it to a Hometown Hero Split. Currently at a crossroads and want to see how they differ if at all.

A lot of similarities on paper, and there could be some overlap on snow, but I'm betting you can figure out which you might prefer. What exactly do you want in a split?

I'm betting the covert has an edge in float and overall directionality if that's important, but otherwise it's hard to guess. No-brainer for me because I'm not a fan of Burton boards, but that's just me.

Given that I'm from australia our terrain is quite variable (shit), so id want a board that can handle icy or choppy conditions, in the same stretch however; im not chasing a particularly stiff board like a solution as i'll be taking it to japan and using it there in the trees.
Understandably neither of these are true japan boards however i'll take some sinking if it means i dont have a terrible time on the home ground.

There was a few differences in which i noticed but stats doesnt always transfer to ride.
Im very curious at how much wider the waist width is on the Covert vs the HTH, its a 8mm width difference and im curious if this affects response, edge to edge, and float.
I've also heard a few comments stating the cadet being stiff, having tested a solid HTH im perfectly happy with that level of flex for my purposes and if a cadet/covert was much stiffer then it might not fare so well in the narrower trees.

[Spenser]

Just wondering if anyone having owned a Covert split is able to compare it to a Hometown Hero Split. Currently at a crossroads and want to see how they differ if at all.

A lot of similarities on paper, and there could be some overlap on snow, but I'm betting you can figure out which you might prefer. What exactly do you want in a split?

I'm betting the covert has an edge in float and overall directionality if that's important, but otherwise it's hard to guess. No-brainer for me because I'm not a fan of Burton boards, but that's just me.

Given that I'm from australia our terrain is quite variable (shit), so id want a board that can handle icy or choppy conditions, in the same stretch however; im not chasing a particularly stiff board like a solution as i'll be taking it to japan and using it there in the trees.
Understandably neither of these are true japan boards however i'll take some sinking if it means i dont have a terrible time on the home ground.

There was a few differences in which i noticed but stats doesnt always transfer to ride.
Im very curious at how much wider the waist width is on the Covert vs the HTH, its a 8mm width difference and im curious if this affects response, edge to edge, and float.
I've also heard a few comments stating the cadet being stiff, having tested a solid HTH im perfectly happy with that level of flex for my purposes and if a cadet/covert was much stiffer then it might not fare so well in the narrower trees.

I don't think flex difference is a concern. Both cadet and covert are stiff mediums like the HTH. Nothing crazy or too demanding. They may have their slight differences in flex pattern, but they should be in the same realm. Also note that the covert is just a hair below the cadet in that regard, and the extra taper adds to the way it maneuvers.

I still think the covert will float a bit better, and the slight width increase is part of that. I wouldn't worry about maneuverability in pow/trees. The taper and radius keep it nicely turny, and if you're floating a little easier, that helps too.

When it comes to firm, icy, or other crappy snow - or even just groomers - IMO that's going to be where width preference really comes in, and could be your deciding factor. They're both plenty capable in all conditions, but if you like the feeling of a more traditional waist, you would want the HTH. Although the covert isn't "fat" by any means, it's fairly normal not to like any extra width in firm or crappy snow. It should still float well, and you could always add a little extra setback when in Japan.

What kind of widths do you normally ride? Have you tried anything in the range of the covert? It's really about what you're used to... I personally like my split about the same width as my solid boards, as I do see a lot of variable conditions.

Any other splits you're considering, or are you fairly set on one of these two? I don't have any other suggestions off the top of my head, just curious.

[azhe]

I don't think flex difference is a concern. Both cadet and covert are stiff mediums like the HTH. Nothing crazy or too demanding. They may have their slight differences in flex pattern, but they should be in the same realm. Also note that the covert is just a hair below the cadet in that regard, and the extra taper adds to the way it maneuvers.

I still think the covert will float a bit better, and the slight width increase is part of that. I wouldn't worry about maneuverability in pow/trees. The taper and radius keep it nicely turny, and if you're floating a little easier, that helps too.

When it comes to firm, icy, or other crappy snow - or even just groomers - IMO that's going to be where width preference really comes in, and could be your deciding factor. They're both plenty capable in all conditions, but if you like the feeling of a more traditional waist, you would want the HTH. Although the covert isn't "fat" by any means, it's fairly normal not to like any extra width in firm or crappy snow. It should still float well, and you could always add a little extra setback when in Japan.

What kind of widths do you normally ride? Have you tried anything in the range of the covert? It's really about what you're used to... I personally like my split about the same width as my solid boards, as I do see a lot of variable conditions.

Any other splits you're considering, or are you fairly set on one of these two? I don't have any other suggestions off the top of my head, just curious.

Thanks for that insight, a lot to think about in regards to covert's width. You are correct that having experienced the volume shift craze I'm starting to want to go back down to a more traditional waist. This is mostly due to lack of stability at speed.

Currently my primary board is an aeronaut and it seems to be a perfect fit for me so far. I also have a dancehaul that I use as a rock/spring board or any time i feel like jumping rails. I would say dancehaul at 255ww 6.8radius is quite nimble for me however this is still narrower than the covert (264ww), as i'll be sizing up my split to account for the extra weight.

I've also got a Salomon Taka split on my shortlist, which i can grab for effectively half the price of either of these. However I have concerns on how the taka will perform in australia, i've heard reports its medium soft with the nose being even softer.

[Spenser]

I don't think flex difference is a concern. Both cadet and covert are stiff mediums like the HTH. Nothing crazy or too demanding. They may have their slight differences in flex pattern, but they should be in the same realm. Also note that the covert is just a hair below the cadet in that regard, and the extra taper adds to the way it maneuvers.

I still think the covert will float a bit better, and the slight width increase is part of that. I wouldn't worry about maneuverability in pow/trees. The taper and radius keep it nicely turny, and if you're floating a little easier, that helps too.

When it comes to firm, icy, or other crappy snow - or even just groomers - IMO that's going to be where width preference really comes in, and could be your deciding factor. They're both plenty capable in all conditions, but if you like the feeling of a more traditional waist, you would want the HTH. Although the covert isn't "fat" by any means, it's fairly normal not to like any extra width in firm or crappy snow. It should still float well, and you could always add a little extra setback when in Japan.

What kind of widths do you normally ride? Have you tried anything in the range of the covert? It's really about what you're used to... I personally like my split about the same width as my solid boards, as I do see a lot of variable conditions.

Any other splits you're considering, or are you fairly set on one of these two? I don't have any other suggestions off the top of my head, just curious.

Thanks for that insight, a lot to think about in regards to covert's width. You are correct that having experienced the volume shift craze I'm starting to want to go back down to a more traditional waist. This is mostly due to lack of stability at speed.

Currently my primary board is an aeronaut and it seems to be a perfect fit for me so far. I also have a dancehaul that I use as a rock/spring board or any time i feel like jumping rails. I would say dancehaul at 255ww 6.8radius is quite nimble for me however this is still narrower than the covert (264ww), as i'll be sizing up my split to account for the extra weight.

I've also got a Salomon Taka split on my shortlist, which i can grab for effectively half the price of either of these. However I have concerns on how the taka will perform in australia, i've heard reports its medium soft with the nose being even softer.

I don't even know what to consider normal width anymore, but it's certainly wider than it used to be. Remember when a ~160 was often sub-250? Crazy.

Anyway, I don't consider the covert volume shifted, but it's definitely a "modern midwide." Coming from what you normally ride, it's likely the case that the HTH is the best choice for you between the two.