The Wax and Tune Ya Goon Thread

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jota wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:14 am Is it normal for the lib base to hold hot wax for only one day?
I had the same experience with a mervin board (Gnu).
I had to do a base grind, to give the board a proper base structure, then the base was able to hold wax for multiple days

So I suggest you to bring the board to a ski service
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Depends on the base. TNT is somewhat of a hybrid extruded base, but they won't hold wax like sintered. But even with sintered Mervin bases, while I've never had speed issues, I did have to keep up on waxing more often.
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Vanni wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:29 am
jota wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:14 am Is it normal for the lib base to hold hot wax for only one day?
I had the same experience with a mervin board (Gnu).
I had to do a base grind, to give the board a proper base structure, then the base was able to hold wax for multiple days

So I suggest you to bring the board to a ski service
100% this! Their base finish isn't good at all. When buying a Mervin board (not all ofcourse) you sometimes have to get a proper base structure. Wich is ridicuul because you expect a proper finish for that price.
I own several Mervin(Lib/Gnu) but I've been downsizing on my Mervin quiver.
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It has more to do with the snow than the base. If you are riding east coast ice and its really cold and hardpack, something like Hertel all temp wont last a full day if you are on your edge a lot.
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Jean77 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:12 pm
Vanni wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 8:29 am
jota wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:14 am Is it normal for the lib base to hold hot wax for only one day?
I had the same experience with a mervin board (Gnu).
I had to do a base grind, to give the board a proper base structure, then the base was able to hold wax for multiple days

So I suggest you to bring the board to a ski service
100% this! Their base finish isn't good at all. When buying a Mervin board (not all ofcourse) you sometimes have to get a proper base structure. Wich is ridicuul because you expect a proper finish for that price.
I own several Mervin(Lib/Gnu) but I've been downsizing on my Mervin quiver.
Thank you @Jean77 and @Vanni I will talk to a specific workshop
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Oldhead wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:17 pm It has more to do with the snow than the base. If you are riding east coast ice and its really cold and hardpack, something like Hertel all temp wont last a full day if you are on your edge a lot.
We mostly live in the less cold/more wet range, but I always run a line of cold/ice wax along the edge for this reason. Seems to help a bit.
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Spenser wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:38 am Depends on the base. TNT is somewhat of a hybrid extruded base, but they won't hold wax like sintered. But even with sintered Mervin bases, while I've never had speed issues, I did have to keep up on waxing more often.
Yes it’s sintered base.
The problem is excessive because I did waxing and then worked with roto brushes. Ready to ride!! The first day of the season my legs lasted about 4 hours, and the white base was already there without wax. the sides only. There was no speed reduction. I even thought about the rub on wax like you use, because the second day I used liquid wax because I couldn't wax with hot wax and with the liquid wax it was even worse... it must have all been left behind when I got out of the chair...
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Spenser wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:22 pm
Oldhead wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:17 pm It has more to do with the snow than the base. If you are riding east coast ice and its really cold and hardpack, something like Hertel all temp wont last a full day if you are on your edge a lot.
We mostly live in the less cold/more wet range, but I always run a line of cold/ice wax along the edge for this reason. Seems to help a bit.
Yes, in my case wetter snow and not very cold...
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Spenser wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:38 am Depends on the base. TNT is somewhat of a hybrid extruded base, but they won't hold wax like sintered. But even with sintered Mervin bases, while I've never had speed issues, I did have to keep up on waxing more often.
even my sintered mervin didn't have speed issue, but I had to wax it every day. If not after a day and half on the slopes, I wasn't able to get through flat areas.
After the base grind/base structure, I didn't have any issues at all, for multiple days
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Vanni wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:44 pm
Spenser wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:38 am Depends on the base. TNT is somewhat of a hybrid extruded base, but they won't hold wax like sintered. But even with sintered Mervin bases, while I've never had speed issues, I did have to keep up on waxing more often.
even my sintered mervin didn't have speed issue, but I had to wax it every day. If not after a day and half on the slopes, I wasn't able to get through flat areas.
After the base grind/base structure, I didn't have any issues at all, for multiple days
That makes sense. I have never done a base grind on any board. They do have a noticeably different look to their bases. I don't know why they can't seem to finish them to the standard of virtually every other company.

Same experience as you. The edges on my mullairs/etc would basically dry out in a day, while the rest of the base did okay. Meanwhile, almost all my other boards have lasted pretty well. I want to say the best I've ever had have been nitro, US, and Stranda.
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