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alex wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:32 pm

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:16 pm

alex wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:01 pm Here hardboot snowboarding did not die or disappear anywhere. And no one riding ski boots, snowboard hardboots evolved from ski boots just as much, as softboots evolved from Sorels. Well, monoski riders do wear ski boots (both boots mounted at 90°, parallelly to ski).

are they mostly hardbooters on alpine board, or do some hardbooters ride freestyle boards? it was interesting watching a snowboard FIS alpine race recently, as there were no non-Europeans in the finals. especially as there were something like 5 north americans medalists in the first 5 olympics.

On "alpine" boards, but those are very different from each other, from freecarving to highspeed slalom to soft snow... They have a course set almost every weekend, only 1-2 skier participates, most on alpine boards with hardboots and few with Step Ons.

i got a jones freecarver 6000 this past season. had a blast riding it with softboots. do they ride japanese influence carving snowboards in finland?

alex wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:32 pm

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:16 pm

alex wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:01 pm Here hardboot snowboarding did not die or disappear anywhere. And no one riding ski boots, snowboard hardboots evolved from ski boots just as much, as softboots evolved from Sorels. Well, monoski riders do wear ski boots (both boots mounted at 90°, parallelly to ski).

are they mostly hardbooters on alpine board, or do some hardbooters ride freestyle boards? it was interesting watching a snowboard FIS alpine race recently, as there were no non-Europeans in the finals. especially as there were something like 5 north americans medalists in the first 5 olympics.

On "alpine" boards, but those are very different from each other, from freecarving to highspeed slalom to soft snow... They have a course set almost every weekend, only 1-2 skier participates, most on alpine boards with hardboots and few with Step Ons.

which ski resort?

Blessed420 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:51 pm

alex wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:32 pm

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:16 pm

are they mostly hardbooters on alpine board, or do some hardbooters ride freestyle boards? it was interesting watching a snowboard FIS alpine race recently, as there were no non-Europeans in the finals. especially as there were something like 5 north americans medalists in the first 5 olympics.

On "alpine" boards, but those are very different from each other, from freecarving to highspeed slalom to soft snow... They have a course set almost every weekend, only 1-2 skier participates, most on alpine boards with hardboots and few with Step Ons.

which ski resort?

Sappee

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:38 pm

alex wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:32 pm

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:16 pm

are they mostly hardbooters on alpine board, or do some hardbooters ride freestyle boards? it was interesting watching a snowboard FIS alpine race recently, as there were no non-Europeans in the finals. especially as there were something like 5 north americans medalists in the first 5 olympics.

On "alpine" boards, but those are very different from each other, from freecarving to highspeed slalom to soft snow... They have a course set almost every weekend, only 1-2 skier participates, most on alpine boards with hardboots and few with Step Ons.

i got a jones freecarver 6000 this past season. had a blast riding it with softboots. do they ride japanese influence carving snowboards in finland?

Yes, Japanese style carving seems to be popular here, especially because one my friend does it very well and probably influence many other, myself including.

Dry snow, gentle slopes and chill people (and tech) makes Japan and Finland similar in some ways.

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:33 pm

C.Fuzzy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:58 pm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Idk. I'm just talking.

i hope you don't mind my saying. unless you were snowboarding in that era, really hard to know these things. still unsure what i am allowed to say on this forum, as seems i upset some people.

I was mostly too poor to be a snowboarder in the 80s/early 90s. But I was a skater and aspiring snowboarder and I nerded out on it best I could. My first real board was a Noah salasnek Noah's ark. I've been around, I think i know the history to a fair degree.

It seems to me my little statement may be being taken as some framework of strict truth in snowboarding history and in a sense being strawmaned. And I'm just kind of saying I believe snowboarding made some conscious choices to differentiate from skiing and form a unique identity which for many the spirit of it still holds. Maybe my example wasn't absolutely true... I didn't intend it to be such. Just an sort of analogy of what could have happened in snowboarding, but didn't. I probably should have chosen a different one or just left it out all together because it wasn't really my point and doesn't even matter.

Afaik there are very few rules about what can and can't be said. I think most folks follow a convention that bigoted troll type shit is a not allowed. Then there's a certain amount of staying away from some topics that I think we try to do because they devolve and I suppose a general ability to be a mature-ish considerate adult helps. I suppose what that means is be respectful and keep it civil.

C.Fuzzy wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:35 am

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:33 pm

C.Fuzzy wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:58 pm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Idk. I'm just talking.

i hope you don't mind my saying. unless you were snowboarding in that era, really hard to know these things. still unsure what i am allowed to say on this forum, as seems i upset some people.

I was mostly too poor to be a snowboarder in the 80s/early 90s. But I was a skater and aspiring snowboarder and I nerded out on it best I could. My first real board was a Noah salasnek Noah's ark. I've been around, I think i know the history to a fair degree.

It seems to me my little statement may be being taken as some framework of strict truth in snowboarding history and in a sense being strawmaned. And I'm just kind of saying I believe snowboarding made some conscious choices to differentiate from skiing and form a unique identity which for many the spirit of it still holds. Maybe my example wasn't absolutely true... I didn't intend it to be such. Just an sort of analogy of what could have happened in snowboarding, but didn't. I probably should have chosen a different one or just left it out all together because it wasn't really my point and doesn't even matter.

yes, in the 80’s snowboarding did want to differentiate itself from snowboarding. but i feel that had very little to do with hardboot snowboarding becoming unpopular, as i recall.

@dpartridge7

Any adjustment on ankle strap placement on the fase bindings, or data on the different version? Asking because I usually have issues with low and forward strap placement. Bataleon/Rome seems to sit higher. Guessing straps is something you just can't swap out on these.

dpartridge7 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:47 am

C.Fuzzy wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:35 am

dpartridge7 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:33 pm

i hope you don't mind my saying. unless you were snowboarding in that era, really hard to know these things. still unsure what i am allowed to say on this forum, as seems i upset some people.

I was mostly too poor to be a snowboarder in the 80s/early 90s. But I was a skater and aspiring snowboarder and I nerded out on it best I could. My first real board was a Noah salasnek Noah's ark. I've been around, I think i know the history to a fair degree.

It seems to me my little statement may be being taken as some framework of strict truth in snowboarding history and in a sense being strawmaned. And I'm just kind of saying I believe snowboarding made some conscious choices to differentiate from skiing and form a unique identity which for many the spirit of it still holds. Maybe my example wasn't absolutely true... I didn't intend it to be such. Just an sort of analogy of what could have happened in snowboarding, but didn't. I probably should have chosen a different one or just left it out all together because it wasn't really my point and doesn't even matter.

yes, in the 80’s snowboarding did want to differentiate itself from snowboarding. but i feel that had very little to do with hardboot snowboarding becoming unpopular, as i recall.

I started riding in the early 90's. I think the reason hardboots did not become popular is because you looked like a dork and your style was affected. Boning out airs was a big thing back then and hardboots did not allow for the lateral flex you get with soft boots.

casjcade wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:22 am @dpartridge7

Any adjustment on ankle strap placement on the fase bindings, or data on the different version? Asking because I usually have issues with low and forward strap placement. Bataleon/Rome seems to sit higher. Guessing straps is something you just can't swap out on these.

Looks like the Rome versions keep their hinge adjuster things: