Msteff wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:29 pm
I’m not trying to be a dick but it doesn’t appear to allow you to get in substantially more quickly or more easily in my opinion. It still requires messing with your straps just like a regular strap binding but with the added benefit (read detriment) of the rear folding high back. There is for sure a market for the ease of entry crowd and I’m not knocking it, but these don’t really seem to sufficiently solve that issue in a meaningful way, while seemingly diminishing performance in other ways. I just don’t see a place for them or what they’re driving at with these.
Our goal with FASE, in collaboration with our brand partners, is to deliver the best high-performance two-strap binding system. It enhances the locked-in feel, precision, and board connection of traditional two-strap bindings while being compatible with any boots—all in a lightweight, minimal, and durable design. Going fully automatic would compromise these core principles. Try it, and you’ll experience just how fast entry is and how effortless the exit feels!
Take all of this with a grain of salt because I have yet to even see them in person yet alone ride them but this seems to confirm my earlier point, “going fully automated would compromise these principals”. I.e we’re not as convenient as fully automatic but necessarily heavier (more parts) and less performance driven (rear folding non-rotating high back and seemingly limited at best forward lean options, perhaps limited adjustability) than a traditional two strap binding.
This is a split the baby scenario, and seems to do a poor job at serving too wide an audience by getting a C+ answer for both of its purported audiences (convenience and performance; strange bedfellows as they are widely different customers).
Impressive team (pros get paid to ride all sorts of stuff) and marketing language aside the performance driven rider is unlikely to be receptive to this. Similarly, there are far better options for the convenience rider. Do I think these will absolutely suck, no probably not. Do I think they are a great innovation, no I do not (extra long locking ladders have been done before and seem to be 80% of the convenience play). Do I think everything they suggest they do has already been done better by someone else, yes I do.
eleveneightnate wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:00 pm
... And the Horizon gets a new shape and sounds possibly softer. Confirmed the Commonwealth is a beefed up/stiffer Passport.
Ahh I just assumed on the topsheet thing. Either way, might have to try that new Horizon. Looks rad.
Thanks for giving me the closure I needed loll. Def don't want a stiffer AND pricier Passport.
And was going to say opposite with Horizon. Fan of their current shape, so may have to snag it this winter before they're gone. That SCR is hella tight, though .
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Speeder757 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:36 pm
The new Union Bindings are $1,000.00?
I think the Source FCs are $1200CAD. Crazy high, but people will pay. I personally could not justify such a purchase, but I think we’ve established that a good number of us in here don’t pay full pop, anyway.
Msteff wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:29 pm
I’m not trying to be a dick but it doesn’t appear to allow you to get in substantially more quickly or more easily in my opinion. It still requires messing with your straps just like a regular strap binding but with the added benefit (read detriment) of the rear folding high back. There is for sure a market for the ease of entry crowd and I’m not knocking it, but these don’t really seem to sufficiently solve that issue in a meaningful way, while seemingly diminishing performance in other ways. I just don’t see a place for them or what they’re driving at with these.
Our goal with FASE, in collaboration with our brand partners, is to deliver the best high-performance two-strap binding system. It enhances the locked-in feel, precision, and board connection of traditional two-strap bindings while being compatible with any boots—all in a lightweight, minimal, and durable design. Going fully automatic would compromise these core principles. Try it, and you’ll experience just how fast entry is and how effortless the exit feels!
Sweet that you have a "goal", too bad you didn't achieve it. You guys have 3 seasons, tops.
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