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Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:29 pm
by Msteff
I’m not trying to be a dick but it doesn’t appear to allow you to get in substantially more quickly or more easily in my opinion. It still requires messing with your straps just like a regular strap binding but with the added benefit (read detriment) of the rear folding high back. There is for sure a market for the ease of entry crowd and I’m not knocking it, but these don’t really seem to sufficiently solve that issue in a meaningful way, while seemingly diminishing performance in other ways. I just don’t see a place for them or what they’re driving at with these.
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:31 pm
by kimchi
Msteff wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:29 pm
I’m not trying to be a dick but it doesn’t appear to allow you to get in substantially more quickly or more easily in my opinion. It still requires messing with your straps just like a regular strap binding but with the added benefit (read detriment) of the rear folding high back. There is for sure a market for the ease of entry crowd and I’m not knocking it, but these don’t really seem to sufficiently solve that issue in a meaningful way, while seemingly diminishing performance in other ways. I just don’t see a place for them or what they’re driving at with these.
Yep. That's my initial read as well. Worst of both worlds. If I'm going to do quick-entry, I might as well go with one of the options that reduces the number of steps, rather than the one that makes a couple steps marginally easier.
Maybe I'll try it and love it, but does feel like trying to split the difference and ending up with worst of both worlds.
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:38 pm
by kimchi
Random tirade re: Ride, and collateral damage to K2 and Burton Family Tree: unisex boards are such performative nonsense. Progressive in marketing and regressive in practice. Making men's boards smaller does not make them "unisex". Sexual dimorphism is a thing. Maybe you can argue it's better than nothing, but it's a copout for designing proper women's specific equivalents.
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:04 pm
by eleveneightnate
kimchi wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:38 pm
Random tirade re: Ride, and collateral damage to K2 and Burton Family Tree: unisex boards are such performative nonsense. Progressive in marketing and regressive in practice. Making men's boards smaller does not make them "unisex". Sexual dimorphism is a thing. Maybe you can argue it's better than nothing, but it's a copout for designing proper women's specific equivalents.
Preach. Slapping buzzwords like “genderless” and “unisex” on existing men’s boards is just the easiest way for them to score those points. Similar to B’s latest outerwear trend: 1. make men’s outerwear 2. call it “genderless” 3. market to women that it’s cool and progressive to wear guy’s XXXL pants 4. profit. Why celebrate and cater to the average differences between the sexes when we can just pretend we’re androgynous zombies to help the bottom line.
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:11 pm
by C.Fuzzy
kimchi wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:38 pm
Random tirade re: Ride, and collateral damage to K2 and Burton Family Tree: unisex boards are such performative nonsense. Progressive in marketing and regressive in practice. Making men's boards smaller does not make them "unisex". Sexual dimorphism is a thing. Maybe you can argue it's better than nothing, but it's a copout for designing proper women's specific equivalents.
Those boards aren't for men or women, they're for unigenders... eunuchs... and the space greys... like, only.
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:12 pm
by C.Fuzzy
eleveneightnate wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:04 pm
kimchi wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:38 pm
Random tirade re: Ride, and collateral damage to K2 and Burton Family Tree: unisex boards are such performative nonsense. Progressive in marketing and regressive in practice. Making men's boards smaller does not make them "unisex". Sexual dimorphism is a thing. Maybe you can argue it's better than nothing, but it's a copout for designing proper women's specific equivalents.
Preach. Slapping buzzwords like “genderless” and “unisex” on existing men’s boards is just the easiest way for them to score those points. Similar to B’s latest outerwear trend: 1. make men’s outerwear 2. call it “genderless” 3. market to women that it’s cool and progressive to wear guy’s XXXL pants 4. profit. Why celebrate and cater to the average differences between the sexes when we can just pretend we’re androgynous zombies to help the bottom line.
Clothes have always been genderless. It's our insecurities that make them gendered.
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:24 pm
by Ancahlagon
I kind of feel like if you want to have the opinion that unisex boards are just marketing fluff, then you also have to be able to comment on what truly makes a women’s board a women’s board…
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:27 pm
by eleveneightnate
C.Fuzzy wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:12 pm
Clothes have always been genderless. It's our insecurities that make them gendered.
I’m definitely gonna try that. “Babe, your swimsuit top is just a product of your insecurities and serves no function. Embrace genderlessness.”
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:45 pm
by eleveneightnate
Ancahlagon wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:24 pm
I kind of feel like if you want to have the opinion that unisex boards are just marketing fluff, then you also have to be able to comment on what truly makes a women’s board a women’s board…
Materials come to mind. For example, why does the 146 Passport have the same exact carbon layup as the 163 knowing the people riding those sizes will have nearly opposite physical traits? So, a 120 pound woman gets the same 10 strips of carbon underfoot as a 220 pound guy? That’ll make the board ride totally different for those two people. Why not create a women’s specific version that has scaled back carbon so that the end users get roughly the same experience re: flex, response, etc?
Re: HARDGOODS 25/26
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:29 pm
by HasanPoland
RadDad801 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:11 am
Kazu probably has my favorite graphics two years running now.
Did you mean next-season raven graphic?
Base is beauty, but topsheet… topshit
Atlas Pro Union bindings Kazu will be sick ! :>