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C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 9:39 am

coleslawed wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:10 pm we all still lost our jobs. maybe a dozen people carried forward with Camping World. mostly people from our tech/dev team and some CS, plus our main buyer and IPP Pete to run the in-house brands.

but everyone who worked in our warehouses and hustled to get every order shipped out before the end of March, our receiving team who made sure everything from Amer & Rossi got pulled off the shelves to be sent back to them rather than be sold under cost, the logistics guys who did all the leg work to make sure the leftover inventory made it to the correct Camping World warehouse (), our marketing team, the database team, all of our retail kids who had to deal with customers face to face about why a successful local business was going under, our customer service leads who dealt with the brunt of dissatisfied customers, all of them lost their jobs after working even harder those last two months with zero direction from our Camping World overlords.

just need to be clear that it is 100% Fuck Camping World, and The House by association there.
hopefully anybody who stayed is getting paid well or continuing to look for other work.

To my understanding businesses have no human qualities of their own and are in their essence sociopathic as their purpose is only to maximize value for shareholders. Their obligation to maximize shareholder value is written into the laws governing them, so even when brass has a moral compass, often when confronted with decisions they're legally bound to do the money thing and that's often morally questionable and sometimes reprehensible. One of the reasons sociopathic people rise to the heads of these institutions is because they're able to make these decisions that align with the organizations (investors) goals to the detriment of our sensibilities of right and wrong, in a way that most others aren't. As an aside, giving corporations the same legal rights and protections of persons is one of the biggest problems we face as a democracy in part because of this. But I digress.

The issue is that we as normal people (if healthy) are not solely motivated by money, but take our personal value from internal things like 'being of service to others', 'individual purpose' and 'being good to our word'. These qualities that make us good in a tribe, or society, don't align with business beyond a point and are exploitable weaknesses in a human/corporation relationship. (also in similar personal relationships, but I digress again)

For instance, these team members that put in maximum effort above and beyond (driven by internal values) was probably largely due to loyalty to their coworkers first, and second to the customers. We may hope that it means something to the business and we'll be rewarded for this effort, but it doesn't and it can't as it has no feelings of it's own. It's a unthinking, unfeeling machine only driven by external value.

Unfortunately, despite the injustices done and our sensibilities of right and wrong, since on a whole they'll be rewarded much more for prioritizing external values over internal values, these brands & corporations will make the "correct" business decision for their shareholders and as money from sales are the goal, they'll likely just continue to sell goods to major buyers despite their bad actions.

The worst of it is that in turn we may begin to see our humanity as a weakness and we may start to reason ourselves out of it only to become what harmed us in retaliation to 'give back what has been done to us'. In this way we may internalize an "injured" identity with a vengeance to the injustices we perceive.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

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But I digress. AgainAgain. Sometimes I just get caught up in my own thinking.

coleslawed wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 9:22 am

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 9:39 am

coleslawed wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 8:10 pm we all still lost our jobs. maybe a dozen people carried forward with Camping World. mostly people from our tech/dev team and some CS, plus our main buyer and IPP Pete to run the in-house brands.

but everyone who worked in our warehouses and hustled to get every order shipped out before the end of March, our receiving team who made sure everything from Amer & Rossi got pulled off the shelves to be sent back to them rather than be sold under cost, the logistics guys who did all the leg work to make sure the leftover inventory made it to the correct Camping World warehouse (), our marketing team, the database team, all of our retail kids who had to deal with customers face to face about why a successful local business was going under, our customer service leads who dealt with the brunt of dissatisfied customers, all of them lost their jobs after working even harder those last two months with zero direction from our Camping World overlords.

just need to be clear that it is 100% Fuck Camping World, and The House by association there.
hopefully anybody who stayed is getting paid well or continuing to look for other work.

To my understanding businesses have no human qualities of their own and are in their essence sociopathic as their purpose is only to maximize value for shareholders. Their obligation to maximize shareholder value is written into the laws governing them, so even when brass has a moral compass, often when confronted with decisions they're legally bound to do the money thing and that's often morally questionable and sometimes reprehensible. One of the reasons sociopathic people rise to the heads of these institutions is because they're able to make these decisions that align with the organizations (investors) goals to the detriment of our sensibilities of right and wrong, in a way that most others aren't. As an aside, giving corporations the same legal rights and protections of persons is one of the biggest problems we face as a democracy in part because of this. But I digress.

The issue is that we as normal people (if healthy) are not solely motivated by money, but take our personal value from internal things like 'being of service to others', 'individual purpose' and 'being good to our word'. These qualities that make us good in a tribe, or society, don't align with business beyond a point and are exploitable weaknesses in a human/corporation relationship. (also in similar personal relationships, but I digress again)

For instance, these team members that put in maximum effort above and beyond (driven by internal values) was probably largely due to loyalty to their coworkers first, and second to the customers. We may hope that it means something to the business and we'll be rewarded for this effort, but it doesn't and it can't as it has no feelings of it's own. It's a unthinking, unfeeling machine only driven by external value.

Unfortunately, despite the injustices done and our sensibilities of right and wrong, since on a whole they'll be rewarded much more for prioritizing external values over internal values, these brands & corporations will make the "correct" business decision for their shareholders and as money from sales are the goal, they'll likely just continue to sell goods to major buyers despite their bad actions.

The worst of it is that in turn we may begin to see our humanity as a weakness and we may start to reason ourselves out of it only to become what harmed us in retaliation to 'give back what has been done to us'. In this way we may internalize an "injured" identity with a vengeance to the injustices we perceive.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

.

But I digress. AgainAgain. Sometimes I just get caught up in my own thinking.

yeah, sure.

let a guy be mad he lost his job to dumb corporate bs and nothing to do with how good everyone there was at there job.

(also, I guess I wanted that post to highlight how poorly they have thought through this decision. all of those people were the reason The House was successful, yet none were offered any sort of opportunity to carry forward with Camping World. i do not see this new shell of The House being successful or even lasting much longer than a season or two)

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:45 am

bksdds wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 7:06 pm

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 9:39 am In this way we may internalize an "injured" identity with a vengeance to the injustices we perceive.

Kind of parallels with The Batman (2022).

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I know I'm off in the weeds, so despite my inclinations i'll refrain from going farther.

unsuspected wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:45 am Now 23/24 lineup.
https://www.now-snowboarding.com/49-men-s-bindings

unsuspected wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:45 am Now 23/24 lineup.
https://www.now-snowboarding.com/49-men-s-bindings

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iheartsierracement wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:16 am Anyone get a hold of Amplid's 23/24 lineup?