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Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:27 am
by eleveneightnate
Demo of how Fase works:


Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:28 am
by michaelangelo
god damn that source is an ugly binding

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:30 am
by casjcade
ad1105 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:09 am
RadDad801 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:38 am I can see "teeth" in the toeside insert. Looks like the heelside insert creates a pivot point and you dial your angle in using the toeside one.
This is correct. I think it goes +/- 21 or 24 degrees, maybe more maybe less. Should be fine for most people but not for the über-posi-posi carving crowd. I feel like they should include a torque wrench or something.
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Maybe its flippable? Think it would have to be to get that range. Or it's like 9-30 on front and -12+9 on back.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:42 am
by ad1105
I’m not entirely sure, but I doubt it can be flipped. The footbed tapers at the heel like any other.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:28 pm
by RadDad801
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Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:47 pm
by jclinares
RadDad801 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:28 pm Image
Waaaaait a minute. Only down to -3 on the back binding? That sounds... extremely limited?

I'm a posi/posi guy most of the time, but even my "freestyle" stance is -6 on the back, lol.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:53 pm
by Ancahlagon
I'm reading that as only up to +3 on the back foot. Just worded very poorly.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:55 pm
by C.Fuzzy
Huh. This is actually pretty neat.

Interestingly has zero compatibility with Burton boards. Something unthinkable in days of yore.

But then again they have step ons too.

Is this just an IP race? I'll license yours for the same price you license mine?

Or was step ons just eating everyone's lunch?

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:59 pm
by jclinares
Ancahlagon wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:53 pm I'm reading that as only up to +3 on the back foot. Just worded very poorly.
Maybe. I'm trying to visualize the other binding, but I've always sucked at visualizing mirrored images. It's why I flunked a semester of chemistry in college, lol.

Also, up to +3 on the back also doesn't work for me, hahahaha. Guess this first iteration will be a "no, thank you", on my end.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:06 pm
by jclinares
C.Fuzzy wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:55 pm Huh. This is actually pretty neat.

Interestingly has zero compatibility with Burton boards. Something unthinkable in days of yore.
That's Endeavor erasure, and I will not stand for it! 😝

C.Fuzzy wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:55 pm But then again they have step ons too.

Is this just an IP race? I'll license yours for the same price you license mine?

Or was step ons just eating everyone's lunch?
I'm thinking this is part of why they licensed the Step On system from Burton. If they're trying to make this their "new normal", they're going to need an option to cater to the huge Burton market segment.

We'll see if these catch on, but as long as it's the same 4x2 insert pattern, I don't see Burton licensing this to replace the ReFlex versions, unless it really makes a huge difference in performance and/or product cost.