OUTERWEAR

[C.Fuzzy]

If folks will buy that... certainly B can make throwback Ronin and Analog stuff

[benjinyc]

different demographic. This is more of the lloro piana hermes crowd, not supreme kith

[Supra]

Goldwin makes the north face in Japan. I think they do 241, but I forget. They used to make a snowboard brand called Blueblood too.

[eleveneightnate]

Didn't know the glove company Oyuki made outerwear. Looks very AK:

https://www.evo.com/shell-jackets/oyuki ... d_source=1

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[Msteff]

Looks like you would use it to do research for a term paper.

[Spenser]

To be fair, almost all higher-end technical outerwear has that exact same design now. But yeah, before I looked, I thought it was AK.

[benjinyc]

Goldwin makes the north face in Japan. I think they do 241, but I forget. They used to make a snowboard brand called Blueblood too.

ah ok, price makes sense I think. the North Face Japan gear is pretty good.

just did some googling and found…

Also to add that TNF in Japan is owned by Goldwin; they are able to buy in any of the standard US collection but also have TNF brand production rights so can add what they wish.

Added complexity is Goldwin have a joint venture with Youngone (one of the leading manufacturers for sportswear/outdoor-wear producing for all the big corporations like TNF, Colombia, Patagonia etc). This venture is korea-based so it’s much more straightforward and cost effective for them to bring products to market by effectively owning manufacturing. Also means that minimum order quantities which brands meet to hit when working with manufacturers like Youngone can be reduced when Youngone (together with Goldwin) are in effect just producing for their own business. This means ‘cooler’ yet less commercial products make it to market over there.

[Oldhead]

Nice test.

[C.Fuzzy]

Nice test.

This is unfortunate bc Iwould always lick the rain off my clothing instead of drinking all the other things that I'm told are bad for me. Now idk what to do.

I guess it's back to just eating yellow snow for the flavor.

[eleveneightnate]

Could always throw your outerwear in the wash if it's a big concern, I bet that'd get a lot of it out and then you could re-waterproof with a non-PFAS DWR like Granger.

The Cape Fear River (our drinking water source) had PFAS levels of >100,000 ppt during testing in 2019, then the city starting filtering for it and it went way down, and we filter that again in our house bringing our PFAS and PFOA levels below detectable levels. Personally, I'd worry more about your drinking water than a jacket being saturated for 24 hours then testing at 21 ppt. Snow outerwear typically isn't being soaked through for long periods of time and you also have layers between it and you, so it's the pretty much the last source of PFAS I'd freak out about.