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Re: The boot thread

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:34 pm
by jota
Kevington wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:33 pm Just got a pair of Longo Infuse on Ebay. “New with defects” for £160. The seller said they just had some dirt from storage but they are also missing a lace hook. I should be able to put a new one on though.

They are my usual 275 mondo (my feet are both 274mm) but are the tightest boots I’ve had in this size. The Vans footbed is really thick so I think when I put my thinner ones in my heel will sit further down and back in the pocket and make more space for my toes. Hopefully.

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Vans insoles/footbed are very thick for me too. I don't like them at all. I removed them and put in other ones. I have tried footprint and some 32. Anything is better for me than vans.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:57 am
by sunokeru
Kevington wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:33 pm Just got a pair of Longo Infuse on Ebay. “New with defects” for £160. The seller said they just had some dirt from storage but they are also missing a lace hook. I should be able to put a new one on though.

They are my usual 275 mondo (my feet are both 274mm) but are the tightest boots I’ve had in this size. The Vans footbed is really thick so I think when I put my thinner ones in my heel will sit further down and back in the pocket and make more space for my toes. Hopefully.

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That seems counterintuitive. Bringing the heel lower should reduce length - the opposite of the (pretty common) way of adding length through heel wedges.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:00 am
by sunokeru
jota wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:34 pm Vans insoles/footbed are very thick for me too. I don't like them at all. I removed them and put in other ones. I have tried footprint and some 32. Anything is better for me than vans.
As mentioned before, that has not been my experience. The original insoles in my Vans Verse were pretty thin and floppy, about the same as the ones from my Burton Ions.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
by coleslawed
sunokeru wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:57 am
Kevington wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:33 pm Just got a pair of Longo Infuse on Ebay. “New with defects” for £160. The seller said they just had some dirt from storage but they are also missing a lace hook. I should be able to put a new one on though.

They are my usual 275 mondo (my feet are both 274mm) but are the tightest boots I’ve had in this size. The Vans footbed is really thick so I think when I put my thinner ones in my heel will sit further down and back in the pocket and make more space for my toes. Hopefully.

IMG_1661.jpeg

IMG_1662.jpeg
That seems counterintuitive. Bringing the heel lower should reduce length - the opposite of the (pretty common) way of adding length through heel wedges.
I think in this instance they're putting in an overall thinner insole, which will bring the whole foot down to create more room, not just the heel.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:09 am
by scrub
eleveneightnate wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:02 pm
scrub wrote: Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:44 am Obviously TGR stuff is usually insufferable but this was a pretty good insight into the boot.
Honestly, the Acids sound awesome but that $500 price tag is nuts.
I dunno, all the same do dads as Burton boots but cheaper was what I was thinking! They are like an Ion and an SLX had a baby.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:11 pm
by jota
sunokeru wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:00 am
jota wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:34 pm Vans insoles/footbed are very thick for me too. I don't like them at all. I removed them and put in other ones. I have tried footprint and some 32. Anything is better for me than vans.
As mentioned before, that has not been my experience. The original insoles in my Vans Verse were pretty thin and floppy, about the same as the ones from my Burton Ions.
My burton slx insole 3mm and my vans insole 1cm and 3mm

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:27 pm
by sunokeru
coleslawed wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
sunokeru wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:57 am
Kevington wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:33 pm Just got a pair of Longo Infuse on Ebay. “New with defects” for £160. The seller said they just had some dirt from storage but they are also missing a lace hook. I should be able to put a new one on though.

They are my usual 275 mondo (my feet are both 274mm) but are the tightest boots I’ve had in this size. The Vans footbed is really thick so I think when I put my thinner ones in my heel will sit further down and back in the pocket and make more space for my toes. Hopefully.

IMG_1661.jpeg

IMG_1662.jpeg
That seems counterintuitive. Bringing the heel lower should reduce length - the opposite of the (pretty common) way of adding length through heel wedges.
I think in this instance they're putting in an overall thinner insole, which will bring the whole foot down to create more room, not just the heel.
Fair enough - although still do not see it adding any real length. As mentioned elsewhere, I did the opposite in both respects: Thicker insole to take up volume from below and heel wedges to increase length (and also to take up some more volume).

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:31 pm
by sunokeru
jota wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 12:11 pm
sunokeru wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:00 am
jota wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:34 pm Vans insoles/footbed are very thick for me too. I don't like them at all. I removed them and put in other ones. I have tried footprint and some 32. Anything is better for me than vans.
As mentioned before, that has not been my experience. The original insoles in my Vans Verse were pretty thin and floppy, about the same as the ones from my Burton Ions.
My burton slx insole 3mm and my vans insole 1cm and 3mm
Cannot really tell from your pictures where you are measuring but those are interesting numbers.

Also, those Vans insoles look very different from mine (Burton ones almost the same). I need to check whether I still have them somewhere.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:16 am
by Spenser
But.... why is anyone using stock insoles

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:43 am
by Kevington
Spenser wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:16 am But.... why is anyone using stock insoles
True.

The Vans ones look kind of half decent to be fair but I’ll still swap them out for my usual Sidas.

They are undoubtedly thick AF, same as Vans skate shoes. The heel pocket in the shell is deepest lower down and my heel bone protrudes relatively high so a lower footbed will align those two things better and should make more space lengthwise in the boot.