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weekday_pacifist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:50 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:01 pm 25 Burton AK


https://one8.co.kr/product/list_Pre-Ord ... te_no=5079

THANK YOU!!!

Slightly heartbroken that the Navy-ish Cyclic jacket is actually just a badly lit photo of Deep Emerald (that picture of it with the "matching" pant is crazy), but at least Burton's current sale is still going and I can pivot to something else.

pow_hnd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:03 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:45 pm

pow_hnd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:56 am Glad, but sad my info was right and I snagged those extra AK457 jackets seeing as they seemingly have dropped the offerings.

No it still exists, but it says GUIDE in huge letters across the back. Sani Alibabic is wearing a black one in that Red Bull Schnitzel Video.

That’s an old jacket. Was like 3 years ago when it had that on it.

I was told by people at Burton that it’s basically done for. Masa Takeuchi told a friend that was riding with him in February at his cat operation that it’s done as well, supposedly there’s a tiny bit of carry over that will be sold in China next season, but AK457 is done according to multiple people and I’ve not seen it in any catalogs for any market at all.

I’d love to be wrong, trust me.

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:23 am PFAS

jbrorbs wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:33 am Anyone else a little bummed that the trend towards jacket cuts are leaning towards shorter and boxy fits? No hate if that's your style, but it's a little disappointing when it seems like that's all that is being offered, especially for the upcoming season. Speaking from the perspective of a taller rider, not a very good look.

yukinori wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 9:54 am

pow_hnd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:03 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:45 pm

No it still exists, but it says GUIDE in huge letters across the back. Sani Alibabic is wearing a black one in that Red Bull Schnitzel Video.

That’s an old jacket. Was like 3 years ago when it had that on it.

I was told by people at Burton that it’s basically done for. Masa Takeuchi told a friend that was riding with him in February at his cat operation that it’s done as well, supposedly there’s a tiny bit of carry over that will be sold in China next season, but AK457 is done according to multiple people and I’ve not seen it in any catalogs for any market at all.

I’d love to be wrong, trust me.

i'm in tokyo right now and have talked to few people in the last few days who have said this season was the last for ak457, things are very evident that B has been changing post-jake. i've been on the hunt for 457 but all sold out across town lol

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:23 am

pow_hnd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:03 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 8:45 pm

No it still exists, but it says GUIDE in huge letters across the back. Sani Alibabic is wearing a black one in that Red Bull Schnitzel Video.

That’s an old jacket. Was like 3 years ago when it had that on it.

I was told by people at Burton that it’s basically done for. Masa Takeuchi told a friend that was riding with him in February at his cat operation that it’s done as well, supposedly there’s a tiny bit of carry over that will be sold in China next season, but AK457 is done according to multiple people and I’ve not seen it in any catalogs for any market at all.

I’d love to be wrong, trust me.

So apparantly all PFAS fabrics have to be out by 2025.

goreTex as it exists now, is basically donezo? Many or most waterproofing + breathability systems brands use, as they are now, donezo. Many DWR coatings donezo.

This is why the high end shit is cut, tho... eh? Cuz they're not going to be able ot make it anymore.

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:56 am

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:23 am

pow_hnd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:03 pm

That’s an old jacket. Was like 3 years ago when it had that on it.

I was told by people at Burton that it’s basically done for. Masa Takeuchi told a friend that was riding with him in February at his cat operation that it’s done as well, supposedly there’s a tiny bit of carry over that will be sold in China next season, but AK457 is done according to multiple people and I’ve not seen it in any catalogs for any market at all.

I’d love to be wrong, trust me.

So apparantly all PFAS fabrics have to be out by 2025.

goreTex as it exists now, is basically donezo? Many or most waterproofing + breathability systems brands use, as they are now, donezo. Many DWR coatings donezo.

This is why the high end shit is cut, tho... eh? Cuz they're not going to be able ot make it anymore.

They all have work arounds. nothing is "donezo" plus 95% of the world doesn't care.


https://www.gore-tex.com/sustainability ... al-impacts

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:14 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:56 am

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:23 am

So apparantly all PFAS fabrics have to be out by 2025.

goreTex as it exists now, is basically donezo? Many or most waterproofing + breathability systems brands use, as they are now, donezo. Many DWR coatings donezo.

This is why the high end shit is cut, tho... eh? Cuz they're not going to be able ot make it anymore.

They all have work arounds. nothing is "donezo" plus 95% of the world doesn't care.


https://www.gore-tex.com/sustainability ... al-impacts

Its my understanding that PFAS are banned as of 2025, and most all of the waterproof tech uses them now and there's not a equal quality waterproof fabric that can be made without them at this time. Whether or not Gore or whatever is made elsewhere (it's my understanding that gore was made in the us and that was part of maintaining the grip on the tech and money) I can't say, but it wont be made stateside...at least without changing the product and then certainly, optically, it seems like brands are or will soon be distancing themselves from these things. So, donezo as far as they exist now, seemingly possible.

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:14 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:56 am

C.Fuzzy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:23 am

So apparantly all PFAS fabrics have to be out by 2025.

goreTex as it exists now, is basically donezo? Many or most waterproofing + breathability systems brands use, as they are now, donezo. Many DWR coatings donezo.

This is why the high end shit is cut, tho... eh? Cuz they're not going to be able ot make it anymore.

They all have work arounds. nothing is "donezo" plus 95% of the world doesn't care.


https://www.gore-tex.com/sustainability ... al-impacts

Its my understanding that PFAS are banned as of 2025, and most all of the waterproof tech uses them now and there's not a equal quality waterproof fabric that can be made without them at this time. Whether or not Gore or whatever is made elsewhere (it's my understanding that gore was made in the us and that was part of maintaining the grip on the tech and money) I can't say, but it wont be made stateside...at least without changing the product and then certainly, optically, it seems like brands are or will soon be distancing themselves from these things. So, donezo as far as they exist now, seemingly possible.