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Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:59 am
by BFBF
CaptainLurk wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:58 pm Step ons don’t suck ✌️. Kimchi that’s my favorite free thinker graphic. Love the ugly ass cream/brown color scheme. Base is sick too
I have yr 2 step ons and ions - upper medium response bindings.
They're solid if unremarkable.
"Working as intended" is my best description.
Rotate them, falcors and now mercurys randomly depending on mood/mountain.
I do love the tribute lounge content.

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:14 am
by benjinyc
man, I never was bothered by the straps flapping around while touring, but now that iv'e seen that video it's going to annoy the f out of me. Also, 100% use a voile strap while I'm in tour mode.

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:34 pm
by Spenser
Haven't been paying attention - just saw B reissued the CK screaming tree. The 168 looks right up my alley... one of the first burton boards in years that I'd like to try. Kinda want one.

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:16 pm
by michaelangelo
I’ve got the 158 Spenser, no ride time yet, but from the extremely accurate hand flex™️ it feels pretty beefy

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:25 pm
by Spenser
Nice. Looking forward to your thoughts. Are the tips as oldschool-swooping as they look online?

68 specs are right on for what I'm liking these days.

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:33 am
by kimchi
bboytommy wrote: Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:01 pm Anyone ride the Free Thinker regularly and can lend me your input?

I need to replace a 2017 Process off-axis. I need a daily/all-mtn/freestyle board. Biggest hesitation is stiff flex and playfulness.

I ride mostly all mountain these days with the existing friend group. But I try to spend a few runs each day in the park to maintain my tricks. Love to press, still got a decent boardslide, and always trying to clean up my spins on side hits and medium-sized jumps.
Haven't actually put the new FT to snow (obviously), but I put it through the ever scientific practice of carpet boarding. It doesn't feel that stiff to me. I'd call it a 6 or 6.5.

Obviously carpet boarding isn't actually riding, but I'd be pretty surprised if it's more aggressive than the Blossom I demoed last year.

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:57 am
by benjinyc
blossom has carbon I-beam, FT has a full layer of carbon so will have more torsional stiffness

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:43 pm
by bboytommy
I've heard the free thinker has gotten softer over the years. I don't mind hearing it feels like a 6/10 though

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:47 pm
by scrub
bboytommy wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:43 pm I've heard the free thinker has gotten softer over the years. I don't mind hearing it feels like a 6/10 though
I’ve heard that about the Deep Thinker too, I’m not sure what year though. My DT is a bit of a plank to be honest.

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:12 am
by unsatisfiedus
coleslawed wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:24 pm
kimchi wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:09 pm
Spenser wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:57 am
I enjoyed this video. Interesting that Fawcett's been on Step Ons for the past 4 years-- that guy is not getting paid by Burton and definitely not compromising on performance. I think he's also said he's relatively heavy at 180 lbs-- still got 30 lbs on him, but that gives me a little more faith I won't eject at high speeds.

Fawcett articulated something about the Step Ons I've been saying since I demoed them 4 years back-- it's not just the convenience, they legitimately turn differently. Not per se better or worse, just differently. That attachment point in the highback makes heel-toe more responsive because the power comes out of pulling the heelcup, not just pushing against the straps.

I liked the security of the heel cleat (probably same reason I like the high heelcups on NOW/Jones bindings), but I couldn't get used to the lack of lateral play from the side cleats locking down the boot. The side cleats also killed my feet, so I never seriously entertained getting a set. I've heard they've made some tweaks and introduced the Photon wide a couple years back.

I am surprisingly intrigued by Step On splitboard bindings. I'll give them a few years to work out kinks, but that lack of lateral play becomes a huge asset while sidehilling, as does an attachment point in the highback. And dealing with straps while transitioning and transporting a split setup is annoying. Maybe I'm just a kook, but the sales pitch theoretically addresses some of my minor pain points while touring-- plus I don't really love my Sparks. They're reliable and get the job done, but I'm always aware I'm riding an all-metal chassis raised off a broken snowboard.
Did you see Tribute just put out a vid on the split ones? Fawcett reiterated your note there in the sidehill benefits.

I don’t remember if I posted this fit theory on here before, but I’m fairly confident that you’re gonna have a different fit experience with Step-On boots depending on where your boot size lands in the binding’s size range. ie, all boots that fit a size medium have the same width at the toe box for the cleats, so a 9 SO boot is probably gonna feel a touch wider than a standard 9, while a 10.5 SO will feel narrower.

I just kept hearing so many stories from people saying they fit wider/narrower than a standard boot, and I know I couldn’t bear to wear the 10.5 demo Ion SO boots for more than a run, but I can wear regular Ions just fine. gonna try some 11’s (albeit the DC Judges instead of B’s) this season to see if it makes a difference being on the smallest end of the range vs the biggest.
this product was just marketed to me on social media, which is funny because i’m not interested in touring or steps-ons so swing and a miss for the algorithm. got me wondering who this product was for though and came here to ask but it looks like the question was mostly answered already lol.