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Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:22 pm
by jota
benjinyc wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:52 pm
bboytommy wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:50 pm Ugh, Flying V on that stellar...immediate no no.
it's Directional Flying V, not regular Flying V …to me it's basically backseat camber

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That shape is what they used to call “S rocker” and they used it in several models like the Barracuda. Very different from Flying V as it is fully directional and is great if that is what you are looking for: a camber under the rear foot and directional ride

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:35 pm
by AyAyRon
No, the other guy is right, directional flying V is NOT s rocker. S Rocker is when the front contact point/nose lifts up when you flex out the camber that is mostly under your back foot, with Directional Flying V there is rocker from the mid point forward

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:46 pm
by benjinyc
sounds like Accel Camber

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:55 pm
by Spenser
jota wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:22 pm
benjinyc wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:52 pm
bboytommy wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:50 pm Ugh, Flying V on that stellar...immediate no no.
it's Directional Flying V, not regular Flying V …to me it's basically backseat camber

Screenshot 2025-01-14 at 3.53.28 PM.png
That shape is what they used to call “S rocker” and they used it in several models like the Barracuda. Very different from Flying V as it is fully directional and is great if that is what you are looking for: a camber under the rear foot and directional ride
While some places called the profile on the barracuda S-rocker, it wasn't. Different profile. S-rocker is what was on the fish, malolo, landlord, and some others. You were standing on a camber platform, where the nose was lifted to some degree depending on model. "Directional camber" is what they used to call S-rocker, not directional flying V.

The barracuda had directional flying V as shown in the diagram, and I don't recall any other board that they used it on. Reverse camber overall... center rocker, where the board would teter back & forth on the floor. As opposed to S-rocker & directional camber, where the board sits stabile on the camber.

Simply put - one is rocker with camber under the back foot, while the other is camber with a lifted/early rise nose

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:27 pm
by scrub
I think the family tree wave tracer was directional Flying V
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Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:56 pm
by Spenser
scrub wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:27 pm I think the family tree wave tracer was directional Flying V
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Ah, yep. Good shot of how the profile works.

I recall it being more pronounced on the barracuda. It's funny - nobody seemed to be into the barracuda at the time and the profile was scoffed at in comparison to S-rocker, but over 10 years later and I've seen several people seeking them out on snowboard trader.

S-rocker for comparison. Boards are facing the same direction in both photos

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Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:29 pm
by snowman
OG Con Artist ( some had s-rocker ), OG Flight Attendant, and Fishcuit's had s-rocker

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:37 pm
by pow_hnd
scrub wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2025 4:27 pm I think the family tree wave tracer was directional Flying V
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That's a shit load of lift

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:01 pm
by jbrorbs
Need some input. I was lucky enough to win Snowboard Mag's 12 days of giveaways. Won a full Burton set up (board, step on boots and bindings). Board is the Hometown Hero. I'm vaguely familiar with this board and have reviewed the specs. Going back and forth between the 156W and 160.

Stats - 6'1" 215lbs size 10 boot

I prefer boards around a 26 ww and usually ride boards on the shorter side for my height and weight. I live in ND so I primarily ride smaller ski areas with the occasional trip to MT.

Leaning more towards the 156W, however this board is likely not going to be my daily driver. Should I size up for the powder benefits?

Re: The Official Burton Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 7:29 pm
by Spenser
If that's your size preference, I don't see why you couldn't just go with whatever is closest to your normal boards, though I wouldn't go any smaller than them. If that's the 56, I wouldn't overthink it much further. It's true that the 160 would be slightly better for your weight, but preference rules, and it wouldn't be a massive difference.

Keeping in mind that listed length is only material length, I would also compare the effective edge to the boards you're familiar with. For example, let's say the 56 edge is actually slightly longer than what you normally ride - you should be good to go.

RE: not your daily driver - if you want it to be your slightly more stabile & floaty board, 160 is the no-brainer.