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Re: The boot thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:51 pm
by Spenser
Muskrat wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:23 pm
Spenser wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:03 pm I have a few tognar bits on my DC transcend liners. I have pads on each side of my ankle to generally reduce volume around my lower foot, and then on top of those I have C pads for the ankle bones. Added a piece a bit above the heel where your leg gets skinnier around the Achilles, also to reduce volume in that area to provide more hold. For insoles I still just run superfeet because they still work best for me, and for about 10 years now I've used a thin, flat foam insole underneath to slightly reduce vertical volume, as I have a low volume foot. It also reduces the need to crank laces quite as tight, which can sometimes lead to a sharper angle at the ankle. Also adds a bit of damping.
Insoles arrived, which alone made these Dialogs feel much better. I also tried stacking them on the original insole; going to be my go to for the time being. I need something a bit thinner for actual use, but in concept it takes care of my forefoot volume issue, and the flex feels way more natural without the boots cranked so ridiculously tight. Also want to play with cutting out the inside strip of the "spacer insole" for a slightly canted footbed.
Same here, I need a thin one under my superfeet. I tried a "professionally made" custom version from the shop at bachelor, but they were really stiff, and too thick. I've just been running the flat foam from my soletech shoes - typically the Romero laced and other simple models have them. They pack thin, but it's just enough to make the difference.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:03 pm
by Muskrat
Spenser wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:51 pm
Muskrat wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:23 pm
Spenser wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:03 pm I have a few tognar bits on my DC transcend liners. I have pads on each side of my ankle to generally reduce volume around my lower foot, and then on top of those I have C pads for the ankle bones. Added a piece a bit above the heel where your leg gets skinnier around the Achilles, also to reduce volume in that area to provide more hold. For insoles I still just run superfeet because they still work best for me, and for about 10 years now I've used a thin, flat foam insole underneath to slightly reduce vertical volume, as I have a low volume foot. It also reduces the need to crank laces quite as tight, which can sometimes lead to a sharper angle at the ankle. Also adds a bit of damping.
Insoles arrived, which alone made these Dialogs feel much better. I also tried stacking them on the original insole; going to be my go to for the time being. I need something a bit thinner for actual use, but in concept it takes care of my forefoot volume issue, and the flex feels way more natural without the boots cranked so ridiculously tight. Also want to play with cutting out the inside strip of the "spacer insole" for a slightly canted footbed.
Same here, I need a thin one under my superfeet. I tried a "professionally made" custom version from the shop at bachelor, but they were really stiff, and too thick. I've just been running the flat foam from my soletech shoes - typically the Romero laced and other simple models have them. They pack thin, but it's just enough to make the difference.
Right on, I'll check them out. I'm going to try the shop I used to work at and see if they can toss me a sheet from ski boot fitting. If not I'll order something high density in 3-4mm and cut to size. The stock insole is at least 6mm, plus the 6mm Remind insole is too much, but close.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:08 pm
by coleslawed

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:23 pm
by sinned
Are you guys talking about boot shims under the insole? I used to use Bontex boards (brand name, which come in a couple thicknesses) -- which are also available from Tognar -- before I found my forever fit with Adidas Tactical ADV/Lexicon/Acerra (RIP).

https://www.tognar.com/ski-boot-insole-shims-pr/

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:30 pm
by eleveneightnate
coleslawed wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:08 pm
"No wonder no one tweaks anymore."

Couldn't agree more. And not just boots, because everybody is riding all these insanely stiff setups these days and I don't know why. Anything sideways is more fun when you can tweak, flex, poke, and get loose IMO. This idea of needing twitchy, hair trigger response to ride resorts seems more ski-like than skate or surf inspired.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:41 pm
by Spenser
sinned wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:23 pm Are you guys talking about boot shims under the insole? I used to use Bontex boards (brand name, which come in a couple thicknesses) -- which are also available from Tognar -- before I found my forever fit with Adidas Tactical ADV/Lexicon/Acerra (RIP).

https://www.tognar.com/ski-boot-insole-shims-pr/
That's the official product, yes. That looks like what I tried from the shop at bachelor, which I didn't like, personally.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:31 am
by kimchi
I saw these neoprene ankle harnesses pop up on my IG feed.

https://patriotfootbeds.com/products/sn ... ner-sleeve

I don't need these in as long I have functional Adidas boots, but I wonder if I can make other boots work with these. Feels like the neoprene sleeve alone should help snug up rear foot fit period, then the sleeve pockets allows you to apply boot fitting foam without putzing with glue or contact cement. If nothing else, looks like you could DIY some experimentation before dropping hundreds of dollars on pro ski boot fitter time like @pow_hnd .

I don't know anything about Patriot footbeds, but I watched a few of this guy's boot fitting videos when I did a boot fit blog post last year, he seems pretty competent. $45 USD is cheap enough that I'd take a flyer on it just to see if it works. Biggest concern is having neoprene under foot could result in some weirdness.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:42 am
by pow_hnd
kimchi wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:31 am I saw these neoprene ankle harnesses pop up on my IG feed.
This is just running back an old idea, and to an extent it does work. It used to be back in the early/mid 90's almost everyone ran "heel holds" they were made by a company called Aunt Mabels. Almost everyone I knew had run them at some point in time as back then there were really only two boot choices, Airwalk or Burton so if they didn't fit you, you did what you had to do.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:04 pm
by casjcade
Never really found anything as good as the Airwalks with Intuition wrap liners, but stuff wears out.

Re: The boot thread

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:57 pm
by C.Fuzzy
pow_hnd wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:42 am
kimchi wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:31 am I saw these neoprene ankle harnesses pop up on my IG feed.
This is just running back an old idea, and to an extent it does work. It used to be back in the early/mid 90's almost everyone ran "heel holds" they were made by a company called Aunt Mabels. Almost everyone I knew had run them at some point in time as back then there were really only two boot choices, Airwalk or Burton so if they didn't fit you, you did what you had to do.
Man airwalk boots sucked ass

LongLive Aunt Mabels