United Shapes

Gear for playing snowboards with your friends. Snowboards, outerwear, bindings, boots, stomp pads, mankinis, etc.

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kimchi wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:49 pm Do the new boards have same personality as the old ones? @Spenser might be best person to ask on this, maybe @coleslawed . Don't think they're out of GP87 any more.

~2017 Cadet is not my jam, but taught me a ton of what I want out of a board. Little bit more tail, little bit more edge, and little less sidecut, similar core. I killed it dropping cliffs and rocks at Jackson but fuck that was a good trip haha. Lot of good memories on that deck.
They moved somewhere in Europe when they overhauled everything. The whole line seems like got a touch stiffer, perhaps to varying degrees depending on model. The cadet has been my favorite silhouette since it first came out, but I never bothered to own one (other than the used 2019 that's my rock board) because they felt a little softer than I like.. I particularly remember it in the nose. I tried the new one last year, and it felt more beefy, with a more freeride temperament. I don't know that they changed the sidecut blend - but even if they didn't, my theory is that the more stout flex doesn't bend into a tighter turn as easily, adding to the "down the fall line" feeling. I believe they're progressive starting with a mellow front, which is usually my preference. I find that those blends tend to behave most like the larger end of the radius overall. 7.9 on the 62 is of course only the average.. I just needed a stiffer board, and that box is now checked.

Edit: I just looked up the specs of my 2019 cadet, and they did actually change the sidecut slightly. Only went to 7.9 from 7.8, but that means the particular blend could've changed too 🤷‍♂️

For flex comparison, koruas are great for me - which means they ride more stout than the old cadets. When I hopped on the new cadet, it felt more stout than the typical koruas. The flex itself could potentially be very similar, but it has less early rise in the nose, and none in the tail, so the ride-feel came off a little stiffer.

I hadn't considered the new deep reach for the same reasons, despite the sweet new shape & specs, but then I learned a bit more about it. Not only is it virtually full (lower) camber despite them saying it's early rise (thanks @Shredder), but it feels plenty stiff too. Again, feels a bit more aggressive than the typical koruas to me. Sleeper carver, IMO.

It's like the brand matured into a freeride bouillon base instead of freestyle, as those guys have gotten a little older. Just my take.

The transmission that "replaced" the orbit definitely took it up a notch and went full freecarve. Fairly aggressive board that seems to prefer smooth groomers, or it's grumpy. If the orbit kicked your ass, hold on tight.

Another example is the horizon becoming their proper all mountain ride, which IMO is the spot the cadet used to fill, despite the more directional shape.

So here I am, coming from only riding the orbit because nothing else was quite to my liking, now set up to where I could (and might) ride nothing but US all year. Cadet 62, deep reach 59, covert 61
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kimchi wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:49 pm Do the new boards have same personality as the old ones? @Spenser might be best person to ask on this, maybe @coleslawed . Don't think they're out of GP87 any more.

~2017 Cadet is not my jam, but taught me a ton of what I want out of a board. Little bit more tail, little bit more edge, and little less sidecut, similar core. I killed it dropping cliffs and rocks at Jackson but fuck that was a good trip haha. Lot of good memories on that deck.
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indigobc wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:16 pm
Spenser wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:46 pm
Speeder757 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:27 pm Is there any updates to this board (limited cadet) or is it just a limited edition color way? Thx
Just the graphic
I see that the standard cadet has a sintered 2100 base and the limited has a IS 7500 transparent sintered base... @Spenser you seem to be the wealth of knowledge here... is this inaccurate to your knowledge?
I looked into it a little yesterday, and it's not totally clear. From what I can find, the language makes me think they're pretty comparable. "IS" is isospeed by isosport, but I'm not sure who they use for the black bases.
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SJF_NH wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:46 am Everyone needs a Cadet, literally everyone. For those of you that do not yet have one, I can't even begin to express my disappointment in you.

I'm serious people, get your shit together.
why are you doing this to me :lol:
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YukonCornelius wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:22 pm
SJF_NH wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:46 am Everyone needs a Cadet, literally everyone. For those of you that do not yet have one, I can't even begin to express my disappointment in you.

I'm serious people, get your shit together.
why are you doing this to me :lol:
It's just because I expect more from you... :D

(Is it obvious that I was raised by authoritative parents?)
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For anyone who might end up grabbing the LTD cadet, it is in fact a slightly blue gray. Seems like it changes depending on lighting.
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SJF_NH wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:46 am Everyone needs a Cadet, literally everyone. For those of you that do not yet have one, I can't even begin to express my disappointment in you.

I'm serious people, get your shit together.
Cadet is my only board, which I really want to sell, did try to sell it almost whole last winter, for cheapest price in Europe, but no one wanted to buy it.

Reason is because Cadet's design is opposite compared to my most favorite board - US Transmission, and additionally I have a board similar in design with Cadet, but it works much better than Cadet for my riding - Burton Straight Chuter. :)

Feel free to be disappointed... :lol:
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alex wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:18 am
SJF_NH wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:46 am Everyone needs a Cadet, literally everyone. For those of you that do not yet have one, I can't even begin to express my disappointment in you.

I'm serious people, get your shit together.
Cadet is my only board, which I really want to sell, did try to sell it almost whole last winter, for cheapest price in Europe, but no one wanted to buy it.

Reason is because Cadet's design is opposite compared to my most favorite board - US Transmission, and additionally I have a board similar in design with Cadet, but it works much better than Cadet for my riding - Burton Straight Chuter. :)

Feel free to be disappointed... :lol:
Which size do you have?
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Kevington wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:35 am
alex wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:18 am
SJF_NH wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:46 am Everyone needs a Cadet, literally everyone. For those of you that do not yet have one, I can't even begin to express my disappointment in you.

I'm serious people, get your shit together.
Cadet is my only board, which I really want to sell, did try to sell it almost whole last winter, for cheapest price in Europe, but no one wanted to buy it.

Reason is because Cadet's design is opposite compared to my most favorite board - US Transmission, and additionally I have a board similar in design with Cadet, but it works much better than Cadet for my riding - Burton Straight Chuter. :)

Feel free to be disappointed... :lol:
Which size do you have?
162, but it is way too expensive to send it outside of Finland.
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Love the covert. The splits I've had have all been good (other than 1st year hovercraft), but it felt a bit more like a solid, not to mention the overall design being spot on for what I like to ride these days. Just felt great all around.

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