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Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:16 pm
by JU87G
casjcade wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:48 am Mercury has like 3-4 degrees forward lean without adding any, and the highback is pretty soft medial but a lateral wing that you feel when leaning into it. Doesn’t bend back a lot. Jones footpads seem stiffer than the Now I had at least.

I have Cartel, Genesis, composite and carbon highbacks from Burton with zero forward lean that I ride regularly, and it’s just the wing on the Mercury I feel much when swapping. I like the Brigade highback from Now better, but there is some difference in size from Hanger2 Now and Hanger3 Jones.
I also have a pair of Genesis in regular use. When I switch to my Mercury, I feel the wing a little, but it is not problematic or uncomfortable.

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:55 am
by Dave T
You can get the select pro high backs from now which stay out of the way a little more. I have a spare set (size L) as I actually like the mercury high back more (generally use a little fwd lean).

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:35 am
by eleveneightnate
Dave T wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:55 am You can get the select pro high backs from now which stay out of the way a little more. I have a spare set (size L) as I actually like the mercury high back more (generally use a little fwd lean).
Love the Select Pro highback. Since Nows have their inherent responsiveness, the SP highback makes them tweakable and it's the perfect combo.

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:07 am
by jota
yes, @casjcade the combo that also attracts me is hard base including carbon or a mixture of carbon (mercury) and soft hiback... (It is what I use, base diode est and hiback genesis, reactive in my foot, loose in my leg) for that reason change to a new 4x4 unknown and so different bindings break my head.

Thank you @pow_hnd your advice is to enter the process... better from less to more and knowing feedback until you reach your hardgood ideal... I do it in almost everything but in snowboarding I have always tried to shoot directly at the target. This is how I made the wrong boards many times, for not following the correct process... :? they are our toys and many times you go to what makes you excited
Thank you to remember it

I will also see if there are differences between hanger 2 and hanger 3 in size for my 8us boot.

In a store they told me that jones is better, that they have better quality but curiously here almost all of you use now and not jones...but i understand base is the same...


thanks for your feedback @Dave T @eleveneightnate

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:09 am
by jota
eleveneightnate wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:35 am
Dave T wrote: Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:55 am You can get the select pro high backs from now which stay out of the way a little more. I have a spare set (size L) as I actually like the mercury high back more (generally use a little fwd lean).
Love the Select Pro highback. Since Nows have their inherent responsiveness, the SP highback makes them tweakable and it's the perfect combo.
pow racers and now... great comobo.. you are cool

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:16 am
by pow_hnd
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:07 am I will also see if there are differences between hanger 2 and hanger 3 in size for my 8us boot.
At that size of a boot there should be almost no issues. H2 and H3 have the exact same specs, only difference is a dropped down lateral side of the base plate on the H3. H1 does have an actual smaller base plate.
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:07 am
In a store they told me that jones is better, that they have better quality
They are made in the exact same factory, quality is therefore exactly the same. There are people who prefer the Jones strap designs over the NOW straps, but that is a design choice and subjective, but it has nothing to do with the quality, IE durability.

Looks like next year JF came to reality and moved to more modern straps across the line of NOWs, so that particular "issue" will probably be moot.

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:53 am
by eleveneightnate
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:09 am pow racers and now... great comobo.. you are cool
My favorite setup! I take it out almost every time these days.

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:13 am
by jota
pow_hnd wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:16 am
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:07 am I will also see if there are differences between hanger 2 and hanger 3 in size for my 8us boot.
At that size of a boot there should be almost no issues. H2 and H3 have the exact same specs, only difference is a dropped down lateral side of the base plate on the H3. H1 does have an actual smaller base plate.
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:07 am
In a store they told me that jones is better, that they have better quality
They are made in the exact same factory, quality is therefore exactly the same. There are people who prefer the Jones strap designs over the NOW straps, but that is a design choice and subjective, but it has nothing to do with the quality, IE durability.

Looks like next year JF came to reality and moved to more modern straps across the line of NOWs, so that particular "issue" will probably be moot.
thank you @pow_hnd one month ago i tried hanger 3 in a shop and i could appreciate space between my 8us vans infuse and M hanger3. I´ve never had that. Always perfect combo boot-binding (8us and S B diode base) and now i have to wait to see new S hanger 3... But i had the doubt about hanger2

Yes, same factory same quality that is what is logical for me. In the rest I understand that there may be differences in accessory elements ... in quality or design

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:57 pm
by jota
eleveneightnate wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:53 am
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:09 am pow racers and now... great comobo.. you are cool
My favorite setup! I take it out almost every time these days.
is the pow racer flat? or low camber? I know that before it was flat but now I have a doubt. I like it a lot.

I am a strong advocate of flat boards. My 3d fish is great, when there is ice you have to turn floating since it has no grip :shock: :( :lol: and I have to do everything myself to apply the technique, but it is so loose that it allows me to play so much and enjoy so much... and if the snow is good... wohhhhh (I ride it centered to feel the tail)

I think the brands are wrong in concepts. Many riders, this is my 28th season, we are no longer teenagers but brands forget about us. I don't want to fight against the cambers... I don't spend as many days in the snow as my friends, (some teachers or ex-professionals...) but with flat or hybrid camber, since I have a lot of technique, I can ride with anyone at a high level... It is the maximum enjoyment...and i continue improving my ride. I think that a lot of brands have forgotten about us and continue thinking about boards for pros... ).

But luckily we still have hidden jewells... perhaps spring break, future shapes from amplid...

Now I'm going to ride mervin's c2x. I want to try something different from flat (but not camber or FV), but with an energetic tail... and loose and playful in front...

That's why I like your board. It seems to me that it is in this wave... An option for the future. Eenjoyy it!!!! :D :D :D

Re: BINDINGS

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 6:24 pm
by eleveneightnate
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:57 pm
eleveneightnate wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:53 am
jota wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:09 am pow racers and now... great comobo.. you are cool
My favorite setup! I take it out almost every time these days.
is the pow racer flat? or low camber? I know that before it was flat but now I have a doubt. I like it a lot.

I am a strong advocate of flat boards. My 3d fish is great, when there is ice you have to turn floating since it has no grip :shock: :( :lol: and I have to do everything myself to apply the technique, but it is so loose that it allows me to play so much and enjoy so much... and if the snow is good... wohhhhh (I ride it centered to feel the tail)

I think the brands are wrong in concepts. Many riders, this is my 28th season, we are no longer teenagers but brands forget about us. I don't want to fight against the cambers... I don't spend as many days in the snow as my friends, (some teachers or ex-professionals...) but with flat or hybrid camber, since I have a lot of technique, I can ride with anyone at a high level... It is the maximum enjoyment...and i continue improving my ride. I think that a lot of brands have forgotten about us and continue thinking about boards for pros... ).

But luckily we still have hidden jewells... perhaps spring break, future shapes from amplid...

Now I'm going to ride mervin's c2x. I want to try something different from flat (but not camber or FV), but with an energetic tail... and loose and playful in front...

That's why I like your board. It seems to me that it is in this wave... An option for the future. Eenjoyy it!!!! :D :D :D
It has camber now as of this season. It’s pretty mellow though, feels similar to the 2021 one I had.