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pow_hnd wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:50 pm
kimchi wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:25 pm
@pow_hnd I'm surprised you're investing that much in an IR waxer when you already have Phantom treatment on all your decks.
I still like to wax, but want it to be easy. Really been fine tuning my tuning routine.

Switched to Hertel so I don’t need different waxes and bought a full set of Roto brushes.

Now with this IR waxer, it’s literally under 10 minutes total to wax a deck and 5 minutes of that is letting it cool before hitting it with the Roto brush.

And no more cleaning up wax scrapings.
Since this IR waxer is just melting the wax, is there any difference to crayoning on a little wax and running an iron over that? Seems like the amount of wax used would be the same, and the result the same.
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Supra wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:14 pm
Since this IR waxer is just melting the wax, is there any difference to crayoning on a little wax and running an iron over that? Seems like the amount of wax used would be the same, and the result the same.
Hard to explain, but no it’s not the same, I’ve tried the crayon thing, and while it does use less wax, an iron is nowhere as efficient as the IR is.

The IR is just even steady heat that allows the wax to instantly liquify and the base just absorbs it. There’s no need to spread any wax because it just lays down a fine coat of wax from the whole brick.

It took me 3 decks to get it figured out, but when I got it I was like damn this is by far the easiest and most efficient thing I’ve done.
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pow_hnd wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:55 pm
Supra wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:14 pm
Since this IR waxer is just melting the wax, is there any difference to crayoning on a little wax and running an iron over that? Seems like the amount of wax used would be the same, and the result the same.
Hard to explain, but no it’s not the same, I’ve tried the crayon thing, and while it does use less wax, an iron is nowhere as efficient as the IR is.

The IR is just even steady heat that allows the wax to instantly liquify and the base just absorbs it. There’s no need to spread any wax because it just lays down a fine coat of wax from the whole brick.

It took me 3 decks to get it figured out, but when I got it I was like damn this is by far the easiest and most efficient thing I’ve done.
I always have a strange feeling when waxing. I always pass the iron (toko wax iron) several times. If I spend a little time I have the feeling that the wax " doesn't get inside ", but if I stop a little, I have the feeling that I burn it... I have to do more research on this IR iron. I awas looking and I can buy it in Europe. Do you know what power it has? 1200w? 2000w? 2500?
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I was doing a little research and there are indeed some infrared machines that are paint dryers that are used with one hand, (90€) but from what I have read somewhere they do not provide enough power (only 1000w or 2000w) to work with the waxes they have fluoro or graphite type additives. the Montana IR has 3200w
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Need another board like I need another hole in my head, but pretty stoked to rip this around. New Forces are on the way as well.
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jota wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:13 am
pow_hnd wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:55 pm
Supra wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:14 pm
Since this IR waxer is just melting the wax, is there any difference to crayoning on a little wax and running an iron over that? Seems like the amount of wax used would be the same, and the result the same.
Hard to explain, but no it’s not the same, I’ve tried the crayon thing, and while it does use less wax, an iron is nowhere as efficient as the IR is.

The IR is just even steady heat that allows the wax to instantly liquify and the base just absorbs it. There’s no need to spread any wax because it just lays down a fine coat of wax from the whole brick.

It took me 3 decks to get it figured out, but when I got it I was like damn this is by far the easiest and most efficient thing I’ve done.
I always have a strange feeling when waxing. I always pass the iron (toko wax iron) several times. If I spend a little time I have the feeling that the wax " doesn't get inside ", but if I stop a little, I have the feeling that I burn it... I have to do more research on this IR iron. I awas looking and I can buy it in Europe. Do you know what power it has? 1200w? 2000w? 2500?
Where in Europe can you buy it? Like to try it out to!
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https://mountainflow.com/collections/ec ... -waxer-2-0 Image https://mountainflow.com/collections/ec ... -waxer-2-0

I'm just reading up on this as well, but it looks like it's just something you can get at Home Depot/Lowes?
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@pwd_hnd does the mountain flow one have bulbs and can you buy replacements? didn’t see any on their site
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The IR thing is pretty trick. I might have to pick one up.

I have used a heat gun to wax my board as a way to circumvent the mess of scraping. Works well, but much slower than the IR waxer to get the coverage. Even though the heat gun method is kind of slow, it ends up being faster than ironing, waiting to scrape, scraping, and brushing. But my primary goal is to avoid the mess/waste -- which it does.
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benjinyc wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:32 am https://mountainflow.com/collections/ec ... -waxer-2-0 Image https://mountainflow.com/collections/ec ... -waxer-2-0

I'm just reading up on this as well, but it looks like it's just something you can get at Home Depot/Lowes?
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@jota was doing some comparisons above
jota wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:42 am I was doing a little research and there are indeed some infrared machines that are paint dryers that are used with one hand, (90€) but from what I have read somewhere they do not provide enough power (only 1000w or 2000w) to work with the waxes they have fluoro or graphite type additives. the Montana IR has 3200w
guessing the MountainFlow is in that 3200w range as well, vs the Home Depots 2000w, which may work.
they don't list the wattage for theirs, and also say "Patent Pending Design" which must mean there's something else unique to their setup other than how hot it gets and the different handle orientation.
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