jota wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 11:34 am
That’s why I think about step on, I think that just as we look for a better response in skate tech, step on can contribute something in that direction… they say that Jake wanted these bindings to not only be something automatic but bindings with a different behavior or response… that calls my attention even because as Fawcett says you turn without pulling the straps up and since you don’t have the straps on your boots, I think that it could end up generating a sensation quite similar to surfing… Maybe it’s just a desire to try new things.
I remember when B toe straps came out over the tip of the boot, a friend said to me: do you know that feeling of holding a long frontside and not being able to do it on the backside? Well now you can do it… That change, opened up a path of enjoyment for me that has never ended and I wonder if now step on can open up some new path… or not…
I've posted on the step on thread, but the way Fawcett explains it is the way I used to explain it to people until he came out with the video. Now, if anyone asks, I just send them the timestamped link to fawcetts tribute lounge video. No one else comes close to describing why they are great. Sollors is coming close with his new content though. Most people just assume that you give up something to get the speed...not the case whatsoever. Give me skate tech + step on and I would be in heaven... I am hoping that is what the new EST Genesis will be like.
The other thing about step on that no one really talks about is that they are just simple and clean looking on a board. Outside of the Genesis highbacks occasionally ripping off from misuse (too easy to do though and looks to be rectified with the new Genesis est design), and the rare toe clip snapping (cold weather or degraded early plastics -- hasn't happened to anyone I know) these things truly have less failures than standard bindings. I have one old pair of Union Strata that I keep for friends and five step on bindings. And I'm not Burton fanboy, I have never owned one of their boards, but that may change based on the EST Genesis performance.
Snowdaddy wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:03 am
These boards are the ones I'm planning to keep at least at the start of the season. Still thinking of culling it down to maybe 4-5 boards.
These boards are going away this season. I enjoy the Pencil Plus, but it hardly get any time and for normal conditions I have boards I enjoy more. The Horizon is a great board but not what I was looking for I think. Bought the Sickstick to replace it. The Puls was sort of a comedy buy because it was cheap and I thought I'd trick my son into riding it instead of his skis. Turned out I enjoyed riding it myself...
Snowdaddy wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:03 am
These boards are the ones I'm planning to keep at least at the start of the season. Still thinking of culling it down to maybe 4-5 boards.
These boards are going away this season. I enjoy the Pencil Plus, but it hardly get any time and for normal conditions I have boards I enjoy more. The Horizon is a great board but not what I was looking for I think. Bought the Sickstick to replace it. The Puls was sort of a comedy buy because it was cheap and I thought I'd trick my son into riding it instead of his skis. Turned out I enjoyed riding it myself...
Bubo 150, Puls 152, Horizon 159, Pencil Plus.
IMG_1820.jpeg
Those Tur specs got me lookin.
Tell me more
They're a small Swedish brand manufactured in China. GP87 I believe. The boards are stiff and aggressive and the larger sizes are a bit plankish. They're kinda expensive and I'm not sure they're worth what they ask, but I still buy them. Mostly because I became a fanboy after riding the Tur Bubo (which isn't stiff for a normal or heavy guy). Then bought the Pluv 159 (because the 164 was too much board for me). Sort of rapidly bought the Buteo 162 even though I knew it was going to be too much board for most of my riding.
So far the Bubo 150 has been my favorite. I haven't gotten enough time on the Bubo 154 yet but it's a little too wide for my 265 boots to be playful. I'll ride it some more this season to see how it is.
The Buteo 162 is a missile. I should likely be on the 157... but hey... Im not that smart. I sort of choose between the Buteo 162 and the Bullet Train for high speed carving.
Recently got the Falc 161 and have only carpet surfed on it. Feels a little bit softer than the Pluv 159, so that's promising.
Not sure about how the Falc is going to be, but before I bought that one if I could only bring one board on a trip I would have picked my Pluv. It's sort of stiff in the nose and tail and flexing bit between the feet, even if it's properly stiff there as well. In my experience (but Im certainly not an expert rider) the Pluv is a little too stiff in the nose for mellow riding.
SJF_NH wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:12 pm
Need to hear some deets about that Fish once it's been unleashed.
I've looked multiple times at the Wolle Fish in a 157 and the shape seems so rad. Oddly enough, it was the weight that stopped me every time? And maybe the sidewall material? The board always felt so heavy in hand? Which is weird because I know it can't be heavier enough to matter. I definitely want to hear impressions once it's been on snow.
My partner is away at a work retreat this weekend, so I pulled the current boards out for a quiver shot.
L to R: K2 Gyrator 162, G3 Scapegoat 158, Jones Mind Expander 158 (rocker), Gnu Banked Country 155, Burton FT Gril Master 155, Rome Agent 154, Fyra Board Studio pow surfer. Out of this lineup I've only been on the split, the Agent, and the pow surfer. So as per usual there are more boards that I haven't ridden than I have lol.
PXL_20241116_164033909 - Copy.jpg (2.35 MiB) Viewed 13384 times
SJF_NH wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:12 pm
Need to hear some deets about that Fish once it's been unleashed.
I've looked multiple times at the Wolle Fish in a 157 and the shape seems so rad. Oddly enough, it was the weight that stopped me every time? And maybe the sidewall material? The board always felt so heavy in hand? Which is weird because I know it can't be heavier enough to matter. I definitely want to hear impressions once it's been on snow.
I'll definitely give my feedback when I get it on snow. *fingers crossed* I get conditions that warrant it.
I'll get it on a scale and see what it weighs. But handling it compared to other similar size boards I can't feel any noticeable difference.
Funny as it may be the bamboo sidewalls (and top sheet) are one of the things that stood out to me as desirable. The bamboo sidewalls on my illuminati boards gave them noticeably more response than the same abs sidewall versions.
I have quite a lot of riding experience with bamboo top boards with both abs and bamboo sidewalls. I had both the illuminati evolver and the hero twin with both configurations. I'll happily take bamboo sidewalls over abs.
I know the good ride cites the newer version with the abs sidewalls as improved... which imo says more about them than the board. The Ferrari doesn't handle well on gravel. Needs softer suspension and bigger wheels. Also a trunk for my 8 cases of Costco white claws. Heh.
In the terrain and conditions I'll ride this in, I really want responsiveness over dampness. It's a higher volume board, it already going to feel more damp than a normal board by that. Anyone that has ridden the wide boards of yore knows how dead door they felt. No thanks.
Anyhow, I haven't ridden it so it's all conjecture at this point. If this winter shapes up like last winter as it seem to be so far, I may not get conditions to pull it out.
