IF IF IFjsil wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:08 pmHis heel cleat was not seated into the binding. User error. The OP even states as much. You're such a troll lol
If you have engaged the heel cleat with even the first click you cannot pop out without engaging the lever.
Cars are stupid. They can run out of gas. Keep riding horses.AyAyRon wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:13 amIF IF IFjsil wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:08 pmHis heel cleat was not seated into the binding. User error. The OP even states as much. You're such a troll lol
If you have engaged the heel cleat with even the first click you cannot pop out without engaging the lever.
Just use straps, this can't happen because of the superior performance.
I believe you mean well with your strong Step-On advocacy, esp with your mentioned skepticism prior, iirc. It's the delivery of your feedback really that's coming off pretty abrasive, whether intended or not. And/or dismissive of those that still prefer the traditional method, despite trying some version of the Step On.jsil wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:16 amCars are stupid. They can run out of gas. Keep riding horses.AyAyRon wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:13 amIF IF IFjsil wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:08 pm
His heel cleat was not seated into the binding. User error. The OP even states as much. You're such a troll lol
If you have engaged the heel cleat with even the first click you cannot pop out without engaging the lever.
Just use straps, this can't happen because of the superior performance.
.The reason I responded is because this guy posted a video of self-acknowledged user error like it was a reason not to try the system. The only point of that post and the above response is trolling IMO which is fine, he or anyone can do that if they want, but I'll call them out on it. The Internet is full of trolls and misinformation. I can tell you that nothing I've said, even if offensively delivered to some, had been trolling or misinformation.G.D. wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:49 pmI believe you mean well with your strong Step-On advocacy, esp with your mentioned skepticism prior, iirc. It's the delivery of your feedback really that's coming off pretty abrasive, whether intended or not. And/or dismissive of those that still prefer the traditional method, despite trying some version of the Step On.
I have no horse in this race. I like traditional bindings, but def open to trying Step Ons at some point as I do like the idea of more performance benefits, with added benefit of relatively quicker "strapping in", so to speak. But just the way the advocacy is relayed could def be improved, fwiw.
Many many years ago I was at a test day on a glacier in Austria, Union was kind of newborn, maybe couple of years or little more in the business, but they was already a big name, so I tried a couple of their bindings with a couple of capita boards, remember I tested the stairmaster extreme and another board, didn't remember wuch one onestly, think was something like the outsiders but not sure about the model, so they gave me those bindings, maybe the force or the ultra, onestly don't remember the model maybe because what happened.
The person who posted this on reddit acknowledged that it was user error in the post...McK21 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:50 amMany many years ago I was at a test day on a glacier in Austria, Union was kind of newborn, maybe couple of years or little more in the business, but they was already a big name, so I tried a couple of their bindings with a couple of capita boards, remember I tested the stairmaster extreme and another board, didn't remember wuch one onestly, think was something like the outsiders but not sure about the model, so they gave me those bindings, maybe the force or the ultra, onestly don't remember the model maybe because what happened.
So I was going down the slope, doing some side hits as usual at the time and suddenly the ankle strap on the back foot went loose, I was lucky enough to realize that I was going to loose the strap wich happened as soon as I stopped, I managed to go back to the test tent and give back the board and the bindings to the guys that apologised about the problem, at the moment I didn't complain at all, I thought that it's something that could happen, it should not happen onestly, you give people stuff to try doing a potentially dangerous activity so you must check the stuff, but at the time I didn't look at it that way, and that's it.
But then, surfing on the various forum at the time I discovered that a lot of people was complaining at the time about the screws on the first union bindings, at least in Italy it turned out that it was an issue that then they fix during the time.....so, I guess that we can't give shit because one person had a problem with step on, as far as I know I never heard someone else complain about those bindings, and we don't know if these case it was a technical failure or an error by the rider.
Anyways I like step on for certain things, but I still can't find the feeling doing side hits or buttering, especially I have problems with the simple ollie, not that I'm really good at it, but with straps I can do a decent ollie, with step on seemse like I can't make the popo out of the board.
I don't disagree and I'll definitely be trying other systems as they come out, but I appreciate the performance as my park days are over. I can handle cliff drops and sidehits with no issue on step ons and I was never a big butterer, more of a freerider and carver.Ancahlagon wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:07 am For me at the end of the day, SO has limited performance variety, limited boot options, and limitations in boot design. With straps, your boots are more or less unaffected by the binding design and you can achieve lateral stiffness options that are impossible with SO. The sheer number of boot options can catch up, kind of, but even with more and more models, the geometry of the where the cleats all need to land require the boot to hit certain points in space and be shaped a certain way in that space. Strap systems do not have this requirement. It has it's place, but it also has significant hurdles to overcome to replace straps at the top, not even including entrenched rider bias.
