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eleveneightnate wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:08 am

ZeroK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:02 am I tried to get a "performance" fit for the first time this season, picking up a pair of TM-2s half a size down from my mondo point size. They were tight of course before and after heat molding but seemed like they might work after a break-in. After 2 runs in them, I thought the nails on my big toes were going to fall off. It sucks because I did legitimately have a level of precision and response I've never had otherwise.

32's liners are so ungodly stiff these days. I don't see how they could ever be comfortable. Earlier in this thread I had tried some of this season's TM2 wide BOAs and they were like putting my feet in cinder blocks.

ZeroK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:37 am The issue for me was the toe box height of all things. Maybe other issues would have revealed themselves given more time but if the last came to even half a cm higher at the end I think they might have worked.

pow_hnd wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:38 am

ZeroK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:37 am The issue for me was the toe box height of all things. Maybe other issues would have revealed themselves given more time but if the last came to even half a cm higher at the end I think they might have worked.

Did you try toe capping them?

ZeroK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:32 am

pow_hnd wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:38 am

ZeroK wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:37 am The issue for me was the toe box height of all things. Maybe other issues would have revealed themselves given more time but if the last came to even half a cm higher at the end I think they might have worked.

Did you try toe capping them?

During heat molding? I stupidly didn't because I wanted as aggressive a fit as possible and hoped a natural break-in would do the rest. I should probably try again before getting rid of them, but the experience was bad enough to put me off of them for a while

McK21 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:01 am decathlon plastic inserts

tracer wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:09 am

tracer wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:01 pm

tracer wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:21 pm I have a pair of the Iguchi Vans Verse incoming.
I just hope the 10.5 fit (I ride Burton 10, everyday shoes, including various Vans, are 10.5).

Picked em yesterday. Vans definitely changed the lasting or whatever cause these fit like a glove. Have only worn them at home so far, but yeah. No pressure on sides, wiggle room for toes. The Verse I had a few years back were waaay tighter.

They are however also 300g (10 oz) / boot heavier than the Burton Tourists, and don't have a heel welt for semi-automatic crampons, nor heel brake. Not everyone needs those, but I do like at least a bit of heel brake sometimes.

Looking forward to getting back up there to try them out. Heatwave just kicked in, so it may be a few days yet.

Very very bummed.
Turns out Vans' lasting for these really did get drastically changed.
As I've mentioned numerous times here, the size 10.5 US 2018-19 Vans Verse were really tight. I finally broke them in somewhat but when tailor bunions appeared during a tour, I sold em.
I've been on Burton (Tourist) US size 10 since, and they fit great.
My normal shoe size is 10.5. Vans, Nike, Adidas, etc… always 10.5. So going to 10 in Burton was a surprise.

Anyways, so I hear Vans changed their lasting and had been eyeing the Verse Range edition for like 2 seasons. Finally got 'em.
US size 10.5. Old 10.5's were tight, all my Vans street shoes/boots are 10.5… they fixed their lasting… this should be good.
Tried em on twice before heading out and was really pleased at how comfy they felt.

And then I took em out.

After about 10 steps, I realize: these boots are too big! Like, way too big. Toes are floating around. Heel is lifting. Cranking down the BOAs until the cuff is tight does nothing for the toes and heels, deforms the boot, and jams the tongue stiffeners into my forefoot.

@pow_hnd I know you just sold yours citing sizing issues. Obvs we all have different feet, but we may also have been duped by weird sizing.
Unfortunately, I'm not gonna risk ordering size 10s to find out (at least not while I'm in Japan).

I soooo wanted to love these boots.

Ah well.