Re: United Shapes
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:44 pm
Man my snoopy horizon is a plank
Weird how completely wrong carpet boarding can be. I posted in Burton thread, I put a Free Thinker to snow after screwing around in my basement and it was WAY stiffer than I expected. At home I could casually press that thing up to my thigh and I was struggling on the hill.Snowdaddy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:20 pm The Horizon is not too soft.
This was my first day on snow this season and I need a bit more time on it. At first it felt too soft. Probably because of first day rustiness. It just turned way too tight.
After a couple of hours I switched to riding my Pluv instead and it felt much more suited to me. I rode that for a while and then switched back to the Horizon again.
Presto! It suddenly felt much more capable. I was probably just throwing too much weight into it at first. Im not sure this board was something I really needed and if I have to choose between this and the Pluv, I would pick the Pluv. But I can see myself riding this when I have my daughter with me. I'm going to keep it for this season at least.
I was surprised that you did not find Transmission to be simply the best board ever, as I did, until we got a few inches of fresh snow for the first time this season, 1,5 months after the season started. Now I am sure that this is because we have quite different conditions to ride. A few inches of fresh snow is average day in mountains, but rare here, while perfect groomers for carving is average day here, but rare in mountains. We do have frequent precipitations, but usually no more than 1" of snow at a time.Spenser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:22 pm TM is for sure a more aggressive orbit. Sheesh. I need a good day on this thing.
Definitely liked my setback correction
Edit: Back on orbit today. I may be super used to this board, but instantly felt awesome. I've always been good at adapting to new boards, but the transmission is fairly demanding in less than ideal conditions. Otherwise I think it's just a powerful tank for advanced riders. This is generally what I like, and I understand it's what a lot of people would say about the orbit, but the difference is noticeable. Both my big boards are easier/less demanding, even though they have a bunch more edge, are stiff, etc.... it's in the design nuances. Personally I think a lot of it is in the TM nose.
If the orbit tests you, don't get a transmission
Things I would tweak… back off on waist width, and have more of a blend zone at the front contact, to alleviate the aggressive bite that doesn't need to be all the way to the very end. Essentially split the difference between orbit early rise & TM full camber.
I also wonder if in this rare case I'd actually like the 54 more... it would probably feel more similar to the orbit 57 overall
If it had had a wider ww, I'd also be holding myself one of those. Man, they're cool looking though.
Looks like northern Europe ?alex wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:22 amI was surprised that you did not find Transmission to be simply the best board ever, as I did, until we got a few inches of fresh snow for the first time this season, 1,5 months after the season started. Now I am sure that this is because we have quite different conditions to ride. A few inches of fresh snow is average day in mountains, but rare here, while perfect groomers for carving is average day here, but rare in mountains. We do have frequent precipitations, but usually no more than 1" of snow at a time.Spenser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:22 pm TM is for sure a more aggressive orbit. Sheesh. I need a good day on this thing.
Definitely liked my setback correction
Edit: Back on orbit today. I may be super used to this board, but instantly felt awesome. I've always been good at adapting to new boards, but the transmission is fairly demanding in less than ideal conditions. Otherwise I think it's just a powerful tank for advanced riders. This is generally what I like, and I understand it's what a lot of people would say about the orbit, but the difference is noticeable. Both my big boards are easier/less demanding, even though they have a bunch more edge, are stiff, etc.... it's in the design nuances. Personally I think a lot of it is in the TM nose.
If the orbit tests you, don't get a transmission
Things I would tweak… back off on waist width, and have more of a blend zone at the front contact, to alleviate the aggressive bite that doesn't need to be all the way to the very end. Essentially split the difference between orbit early rise & TM full camber.
I also wonder if in this rare case I'd actually like the 54 more... it would probably feel more similar to the orbit 57 overall
When there is no good hardpack to push the board against, Transmission’s personality changed to aggressive, stiff and difficult to control, while on good groomers for carving it is "easily accessible" and very enjoyable to ride. In soft snow, fully cambered nose did not float well, despite huge surface area...
Now I want the Cadet even more, to be overall freeride board, if we got couple days more with softer conditions.
I did not get good picture of soft day here, but it looked a lot like in Spenser’s pictures/videos.
But the average day here look like this:
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This is the same specs as the one I had from 2021, said made in china on it but I don't know where. I also noticed more rocker and a smoother contact blend in the tail than the nose. My first though was someone has got things back to front at some point during design or production and its too late to do anything about it. Also a pretty stiff flex compared to how they described it.michaelangelo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 12:33 pm IMG_9881.jpeg
On paper it was a perfect daily. I don’t know if these Nordstrom ones were second quality or something, but mine has never felt right. The tail has more rocker than the nose and it’s noticeable. I still want the Woodstock 51. I was pretty bummed since it was my first US board, but I did end up spending a ton of time on the 53 Voyager and that was a blast even with how soft it was.