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eleveneightnate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:48 pm Rode mine all day today, didn’t care for them.

Got in and out of them fine, you can get out easily while riding if you twist your heel up and inward.

It’s hard to describe the way they feel. Mechanical but also sloppy? I definitely have heel play in mine. And yes, I’m fully clicked in and riding my normal/correct Burton boot size in these Photons.

Anyway, to me they feel like a step toward skiing and a step away from the board sports that inspire my snowboarding. I hate the total lack of lateral mobility and couldn’t care less that they have slightly better edge to edge response at the expense of it. My riding style is more slashy/buttery/freestyle than boarder cross and I love shadowfit if that says anything. To each their own, but I’m gonna sell mine for mucho profit and get back to muh straps.

On a positive note: I’m teaching my girlfriend to ride (she’s finally switching from skiing) and got her a pair, too. They’re great for both of us getting in and out of efficiently during her learning process.


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AyAyRon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:52 pm

jsil wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:58 pm

AyAyRon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:53 pm I spent an entire season on them, but thanks.

If you spent a season in them and ate shit getting out... Then it's a you problem.

You have an incredible intellect.

jsil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:57 pm Sloppy? Definitely not.

eleveneightnate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:07 pm

jsil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:57 pm Sloppy? Definitely not.

Definitely yes. Literally just got done riding them a few hours ago. I’m in perfect fitting Photons in the same size I’ve been riding Burtons for years, it’s not a boot fit thing. There’s play between the boot and binding where the cleat connects to the highback. It does it without even being in the boots.

I dunno many times you can tell people what they’re experiencing isn’t happening just because you had a different (better) experience with StepOns. You’re starting to sound like a used car salesman.

jsil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:12 pm

eleveneightnate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:07 pm

jsil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:57 pm Sloppy? Definitely not.

Definitely yes. Literally just got done riding them a few hours ago. I’m in perfect fitting Photons in the same size I’ve been riding Burtons for years, it’s not a boot fit thing. There’s play between the boot and binding where the cleat connects to the highback. It does it without even being in the boots.

I dunno many times you can tell people what they’re experiencing isn’t happening just because you had a different (better) experience with StepOns. You’re starting to sound like a used car salesman.

No need to get nasty. You're obviously misunderstanding me. I'm not saying what you're experiencing isn't happening. I'm saying that it's not normal.

I have hundreds of days on them with multiple boots and bindings. I ride with friends that have even more days than that. If you're having issues with rear cleat play then it sounds like something is wrong with your binding. There is play in the toe cleats by design, but no play with the rear cleat.

I'd shoot Burton a message. It's probably a warranty issue.

eleveneightnate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:51 pm

jsil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:12 pm

eleveneightnate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 5:07 pm

Definitely yes. Literally just got done riding them a few hours ago. I’m in perfect fitting Photons in the same size I’ve been riding Burtons for years, it’s not a boot fit thing. There’s play between the boot and binding where the cleat connects to the highback. It does it without even being in the boots.

I dunno many times you can tell people what they’re experiencing isn’t happening just because you had a different (better) experience with StepOns. You’re starting to sound like a used car salesman.

No need to get nasty. You're obviously misunderstanding me. I'm not saying what you're experiencing isn't happening. I'm saying that it's not normal.

I have hundreds of days on them with multiple boots and bindings. I ride with friends that have even more days than that. If you're having issues with rear cleat play then it sounds like something is wrong with your binding. There is play in the toe cleats by design, but no play with the rear cleat.

I'd shoot Burton a message. It's probably a warranty issue.

You’ve been pretty defensive and dismissive of other opinions throughout the thread, so pardon me.

I’m at the absolute bottom of the size range for larges with my 11s. I’ve heard it’s a thing in that scenario, but who knows.

Anyway, no HardOn for StepOn for me. Even without the heel play, it restricts lateral movement way too much for my riding style. Glad you like them.

Spenser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:02 pm A massive fight, by EL standards

Historically, 11 in Burton/Burton could go either way, with pros/cons to each. I'm not hands-on familiar with stepon - is 11 feasible in mediums, and could it potentially help?

eleveneightnate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:12 pm

Spenser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:02 pm A massive fight, by EL standards

Historically, 11 in Burton/Burton could go either way, with pros/cons to each. I'm not hands-on familiar with stepon - is 11 feasible in mediums, and could it potentially help?

Yuge!

Unfortunately with StepOn, each boot size has its cleat spacing spec’d to specific binding sizes so you can’t go up or down in size like normal. All good though, they’re getting the eBay treatment haha.

jsil wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:13 pm Try to sell locally! eBay has such huge fees. I price things at least in 20% to 30% higher on eBay than I do locally and most of the time sell locally first.