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Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 10:05 pm
by eleveneightnate
pow_hnd wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:41 pm Yeah in his YouTube channel he talks about how he’s lowering the nose height and changing the radius so it will sidehill/traverse in pow much better and slice though instead of drag. Sounds right up my alley. Even though I prefer more taper generally, if it has rocker in the nose/tail and there’s a sizing that is in my parameters, I’d give one a try, maybe.
Agreed, looking forward to checking it out. I like my Navi, but it has that super abrupt wapow upkick in the nose that doesn't make sense for powder. It bulldozes through instead of floating, like an extremely rockered surfboard in flat waves.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:43 pm
by pow_hnd
coleslawed wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:20 pm yeah, they just worded it weirdly in the catalog, plus set it up goofy instead of regular.

+21/-3 on the front foot, +3/-21 on the back foot is the range.
I just figured it out and wrapped my head around it.

I think this is much better verbiage as old verbiage was for discs, which are not in this equation.

Both feet have 21° of outward adjustment, like opening your feet to duck, but only 3° of inward adjustment. So you couldn’t run a posi/posi stance… any more than say 21°/3°

So maximum posi/posi is 21°/3°

Maximum duck is 21°/-21°

This new way of mounting seems to have changed the verbiage…

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:01 pm
by coleslawed
100%, it's pretty ideal for my preferred +21/-3, my biggest concern would be no ability to fine tune the width. you'll just be limited to the 2cm increments between inserts.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:06 pm
by eleveneightnate
pow_hnd wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:43 pm I just figured it out and wrapped my head around it.

I think this is much better verbiage as old verbiage was for discs, which are not in this equation.

Both feet have 21° of outward adjustment, like opening your feet to duck, but only 3° of inward adjustment. So you couldn’t run a posi/posi stance… any more than say 21°/3°
eleveneightnate wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:20 am I think both bindings can rotate 21° outwardly and 3° inwardly.
;)

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:11 pm
by pow_hnd
eleveneightnate wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:06 pm
pow_hnd wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:43 pm I just figured it out and wrapped my head around it.

I think this is much better verbiage as old verbiage was for discs, which are not in this equation.

Both feet have 21° of outward adjustment, like opening your feet to duck, but only 3° of inward adjustment. So you couldn’t run a posi/posi stance… any more than say 21°/3°
eleveneightnate wrote: Wed Apr 09, 2025 9:20 am I think both bindings can rotate 21° outwardly and 3° inwardly.
;)
For what ever reason I missed that or saw it and it didn’t compute at the time.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:09 am
by RadDad801
I put up a video that visualizes the range of rotation for each binding a couple pages ago.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:39 am
by C.Fuzzy
coleslawed wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:01 pm 100%, it's pretty ideal for my preferred +21/-3, my biggest concern would be no ability to fine tune the width. you'll just be limited to the 2cm increments between inserts.
I would imagine they'll work on a channel board where stance width is easily fine tuned, but of course, then you'll probably die because the channel makes boards nearly unrideable or something.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:48 am
by pow_hnd
RadDad801 wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:09 am I put up a video that visualizes the range of rotation for each binding a couple pages ago.
I think it was during a storm cycle and I glossed over it and it didn't click the video, but now it's full clicking with me.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:58 am
by coleslawed
C.Fuzzy wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:39 am
coleslawed wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:01 pm 100%, it's pretty ideal for my preferred +21/-3, my biggest concern would be no ability to fine tune the width. you'll just be limited to the 2cm increments between inserts.
I would imagine they'll work on a channel board where stance width is easily fine tuned, but of course, then you'll probably die because the channel makes boards nearly unrideable or something.
someone would have to bring back the original REV/Forum or CAPiTA channels for that, since the inserts are vertically oriented (toe-heel) and not horizontal (tip-tail) like The Channel uses.

Re: HARDGOODS 25/26

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:16 am
by C.Fuzzy
coleslawed wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:58 am
C.Fuzzy wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:39 am
coleslawed wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:01 pm 100%, it's pretty ideal for my preferred +21/-3, my biggest concern would be no ability to fine tune the width. you'll just be limited to the 2cm increments between inserts.
I would imagine they'll work on a channel board where stance width is easily fine tuned, but of course, then you'll probably die because the channel makes boards nearly unrideable or something.
someone would have to bring back the original REV/Forum or CAPiTA channels for that, since the inserts are vertically oriented (toe-heel) and not horizontal (tip-tail) like The Channel uses.
Oh man did I not think that though, you're fully correct.