Re: Moss Snowstick
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:19 pm
I haven't ridden them all but in general they ride lose with rear foot input. I ride them narrow stance and double posi (for me like 21", F+27 R+12).
Swallow 162: Feels pretty normal and pretty predictable ride. My go to on pow days when I trust snow pack. Super fun on groomers as a change of pace, can really lay back on that rear fit and tighten up the sidecut on the backend of carves. Sucks on ice.
Swallow 170: Moss switches up shaping pretty dramatically between sizes, this actually has less effective edge than the 162. I'd like it better in pow, worse on groomers.
Performance Quad 54: Feels super weird but in a good way. So much weird shit going on in this shape, convex base, concave sections between the fins, and a stubby swallow... but long and short is I can lay this thing over with minimal speed and pitch. TUsually I feel like I need to get up to 25+ mph to really carve, I can lay this over at more like 15 mph. Tiny ass tail gets bucked around in variable conditions, something I learned at Jackson Hole. I wish Moss made a bigger PQ57 with the wider waist and a bit more edge, they narrow up the PQ60 significantly. Sounds like the Modern Fish might be the board I'm looking for, but even for a Moss that sucker is $$$$.
Wingswallow 149: I never fully trusted this board. It was surprisingly solid given I'm 210 lbs, but I never found it as flowy as the PQ54 or as solid as the SW62. I was terrified to go fast on it because you have essentially zero edge behind the backfoot, even by the standards of a Moss. You're basically committing to a line unless you can buttslide out or have a mellow runout to slow you down. I have a feeling I'd really like this board if I rode a flatter mountain like Bachelor.
Long 184.5: I don't think they sell this in North America any more, only the Mini Long. This thing is fucking weird. I took one lap on it and gave it back to my buddy. Only thing I can say is it's exclusively rear foot input... first turn I tried to make on it I went to the front foot and straight up fell on my ass. My buddy loves it for super low angle pow days, as you'd expect of a board that big.
U5: This was the first Moss I ever demoed like 7 years ago and I didn't really "get it" yet. Felt like a tweener, not super snowsurfy, not quite as sturdy as a traditional snowboard. My buddy who owns like six or seven Mosses has this and says it's the one he rides the least.
Swallow 162: Feels pretty normal and pretty predictable ride. My go to on pow days when I trust snow pack. Super fun on groomers as a change of pace, can really lay back on that rear fit and tighten up the sidecut on the backend of carves. Sucks on ice.
Swallow 170: Moss switches up shaping pretty dramatically between sizes, this actually has less effective edge than the 162. I'd like it better in pow, worse on groomers.
Performance Quad 54: Feels super weird but in a good way. So much weird shit going on in this shape, convex base, concave sections between the fins, and a stubby swallow... but long and short is I can lay this thing over with minimal speed and pitch. TUsually I feel like I need to get up to 25+ mph to really carve, I can lay this over at more like 15 mph. Tiny ass tail gets bucked around in variable conditions, something I learned at Jackson Hole. I wish Moss made a bigger PQ57 with the wider waist and a bit more edge, they narrow up the PQ60 significantly. Sounds like the Modern Fish might be the board I'm looking for, but even for a Moss that sucker is $$$$.
Wingswallow 149: I never fully trusted this board. It was surprisingly solid given I'm 210 lbs, but I never found it as flowy as the PQ54 or as solid as the SW62. I was terrified to go fast on it because you have essentially zero edge behind the backfoot, even by the standards of a Moss. You're basically committing to a line unless you can buttslide out or have a mellow runout to slow you down. I have a feeling I'd really like this board if I rode a flatter mountain like Bachelor.
Long 184.5: I don't think they sell this in North America any more, only the Mini Long. This thing is fucking weird. I took one lap on it and gave it back to my buddy. Only thing I can say is it's exclusively rear foot input... first turn I tried to make on it I went to the front foot and straight up fell on my ass. My buddy loves it for super low angle pow days, as you'd expect of a board that big.
U5: This was the first Moss I ever demoed like 7 years ago and I didn't really "get it" yet. Felt like a tweener, not super snowsurfy, not quite as sturdy as a traditional snowboard. My buddy who owns like six or seven Mosses has this and says it's the one he rides the least.