The Official Burton Thread

[scrub]

EST bindings made me a Burton guy.

@yukoncornelius I’m surprised that you like the DT/Genesis combo, the couple of days I have had my flight attendant out this summer with the Genesis instead of Cartels it felt really off and I’m looking forward to switching back.

[YukonCornelius]

i like very stiff/responsiveness out of my boots and bindings (i have run Ions for a long time, on '23 Ion leathers now which are starting to get too soft unfortunately).

i had a first gen DT that i had cartels on that i could never seemingly have my straps tight enough to get the board to do what i wanted to.

the DT+Genesis combo for bigger terrain riding is excellent, was my jackson/snowbird board last year, as well as some backcountry in the tetons where we were bootpacking and not skinning.

[kimchi]

I might putz with the FT one more time with some different bindings.

I felt a little off-balance the entire time I rode it and suspected I wasn't properly centered toe-heel. I took a closer look at the NOW/Jones channel disc, and the middle holes puts me too far over the toes, the offset holes put me too far over the heels. That off-balance feeling's probably magnified because the binding's flexing more only attached by two screws.

Ok, I'm definitely going to give the FT another shot. I accidentally fucked up binding centered on the Aeronaut, and set myself biased over the toes instead of the heels. Still had fun, but I felt a little bit off balance the entire day. I think I was more offset on the FT, so didn't give it a fair shake.

This makes me wonder how many boards I wrote off because I wasn't boot centered properly at a demo. Bunch of those demos I jumped on with demo fleet bindings instead of my own.

[Msteff]

Good luck. I hope it works out, centering your boots makes a huge difference in my opinion.

[BFBF]

I don’t know kids. Fondled this yrs FT at B vail last week and the shit colored topsheet with glitter on the topsheet (no joke) wasn’t working for me
At least next year looks somewhat fun
I’m pretty much over the whole boring taupe muted adobe hut in New Mexico colorways on outerwear and such
Bring on the skittle thug resurgence

[kimchi]

At Palisades Tahoe now, took 4 laps on the Free Thinker. Centering discs properly made a huge difference. Pretty crazy, that’s only a shift of maybe 5 mm but game changing for balance.

Still not my jam, but can see why a different rider would like it. Was chatting with @bboytommy and he mentioned he likes decks stiffer between feet and more playful in tips. I prefer opposite, stiff in tips and softer between the bindings.

FT is bboytommy’s preference, Aero is mine. On FT felt like I had to compress and throw my weight into it more for low speed turns, whereas I can lazily ankle steer on the Aero. Aero turns on when I need it, FT feel like I need to be bit more all gas all the time. That burlier middle seemed to help when I hit unexpected chop but not worth the trade off on groomers IMO.

And still think the sidecut is little tight. And it’s a twin, so grips the back end of the carve little harder. Just preference.

It is just fast as fuck though. The FT is SOOOOO much faster with to my memory an identical wax layup and brush job. Aero’s a keeper regardless but might give it good tune.

Overall FT’s a fine board, just not my board.

[coleslawed]

This makes me wonder how many boards I wrote off because I wasn't boot centered properly at a demo. Bunch of those demos I jumped on with demo fleet bindings instead of my own.

I had a terrible time on the Yes Y with some Now bindings at a demo due to improper setup. after that I started to bring my own bindings unless there’s a specific new binding I want to try. it also gives me another constant between different boards so I can better tell what I liked/didn’t like.

[Vanni]

It is just fast as fuck though. The FT is SOOOOO much faster with to my memory an identical wax layup and brush job. Aero’s a keeper regardless but might give it good tune.

My Fishcuit has a scary fast base

I didn't have any issues with capita sintered bases until I bought my first Kazu. I had a bunch of Capita in the past, each base was super fast, at least until they made like 3 bases: extruded, extruded somewhat better than the cheaper extruded, and sintered.
My 2019 Kazu (ultradrive base) to me is not as fast as the older Capita with standard sintered bases. My beaten up Salomon S8, that is way cheaper than a Kazu, has a way faster base, actually is one of the fastest base I experienced (waxed, unwaxed, before base grind, after base grind, whatever, it performs exceptionally well, on flat areas I'm always one of the fastest)
This is the main reason I decided to buy a 2023 Kazu... it should have an upgraded base. It still bugs me that with the old standard sintered base I didn't have any issue at all, and it retained wax for days.

[jota]

I have a cheap 2016 Antler in my sights. FV. I did a test of that board a lot of years ago, but I don't remember well. Have any of you had it? It's a dragonfly core but FV... I don't know, I don't know...

[BFBF]

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