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[michaelangelo]

IIRC, our old rep said they couldn’t make large EST step ons because they flexed too much, front of the boot would pop out

[oar]

https://www.boardsportsource.com/burton ... 5-preview/

Step-On EST finally? I know they did a Mine 77 drop that was Step-On EST, so the tech is out there; I guess they finally refined it for the masses

i have been waiting for an EST step on forever
the mine 77 ones are always on ebay for absurd prices
it would be incredible to try but i honestly think nothing will beat being strapped in...
BOA is a nice perk to boots but I think step on will be a little too new tech for actual practical use in everyway possible unless youre just riding up and down the greens at the resort only

Agreed! What I think prevents most serious riders from using it is growing up on traditional bindings. It's going to be really interesting to see a generation of riders who learned/grew up with Step-On equipment and where they take their riding

[coleslawed]

^^^

the only things holding back more experienced riders from getting the most out of Step On is the stigma & preferences for their go-to strap bindings.

response is all there, maybe even a touch more than traditional straps. the biggest difference in overall ride feel is the connection point on the highback, which just feels a little higher than a standard binding, but even then might be similar to the higher heelcup of NOW/Jones (Yes?) bindings.

[C.Fuzzy]

My on the hill observation is that the stigma of stepons (and the backdoor counterparts) lives on in darkest, smelliest, seediest corners of the internet but the general populous smiles and warmly hugs the convenience of these options. I'm even seeing kids rocking one trad binder and 1 clew with no shame.

[pow_hnd]

Step-ons for sure have their place. They work great for a lot of people and aging riders enjoy the convenience. They’re here to stay and for good reason. Not everything is for everyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth having around.

They are good for the industry and Burton did it right this time by allowing other brands to make boots.

[Ancahlagon]

^^^

the only things holding back more experienced riders from getting the most out of Step On is the stigma & preferences for their go-to strap bindings.

response is all there, maybe even a touch more than traditional straps. the biggest difference in overall ride feel is the connection point on the highback, which just feels a little higher than a standard binding, but even then might be similar to the higher heelcup of NOW/Jones (Yes?) bindings.

I can't ride any of the boots I've tried. And the highback connection felt very limiting to lateral mobility. But the system does function just fine.

[Canuck]

Step-ons for sure have their place. They work great for a lot of people and aging riders enjoy the convenience. They’re here to stay and for good reason. Not everything is for everyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth having around.

They are good for the industry and Burton did it right this time by allowing other brands to make boots.

I couldn’t agree more. I know as I get older I won’t be opposed to step on especially now that there is more choice with boots and they have worked a few of the kinks out.
I wish they were around when I taught my youngest.

[coleslawed]

if burton makes a malavita equivalent in step ons that is secure and good for park and back country i will gladly move to step on but at this point i may as well wait a decade or at least a few more years before i switch over to let them work on any kinks.. its like buying a first generation new vehicle

are the step on boots heavier?

side note my coworker asked if this website is AOL

they're five years deep into selling the bindings, on top of five years R&D before bringing them to market, and already onto 2.0 versions of the bindings. not too many kinks to be worked out anymore, more just general refinements to fit specific needs.

[coleslawed]

^^^

the only things holding back more experienced riders from getting the most out of Step On is the stigma & preferences for their go-to strap bindings.

response is all there, maybe even a touch more than traditional straps. the biggest difference in overall ride feel is the connection point on the highback, which just feels a little higher than a standard binding, but even then might be similar to the higher heelcup of NOW/Jones (Yes?) bindings.

I can't ride any of the boots I've tried. And the highback connection felt very limiting to lateral mobility. But the system does function just fine.

it was probably 3 days of riding before I felt out the proper technique for pop due to the lateral mobility, but I got there.

[C.Fuzzy]

Well China has its world police that finds people critical to the regim and sends them back.

BTW i´m getting the Yes Drives because pink.

No place is perfect, but some are for sure worse than others.

What brands come out of SWS? I know Rome, Jones/Yes, Arbor; but who else?

I'd guess any Nidecker brand / (the brand formely known as ) Batalion / Lobster / Flow

Judging by this more recent SWS video on YT (below)... also White & Backcountry. But likely others as well.

They're claiming to be making 1/3 of all snowboards manufactured each year. Looking at another video of theirs from 3 years ago they claim that number to be 300,000. So, I'd expect it to be more than that today.



I'm so curious what Jones numbers are. I bet way more than I'd guess.