Hardgoods 24/25

[HasanPoland]

News from Bataleon - from 24/25 season they will offer .. snowboots !

[Blessed420]

oh they will have theyre own fubuki boots <3

[Vanni]

News from Bataleon - from 24/25 season they will offer .. snowboots !

triple base boots? to ease jibbing?

[ninja_nate]

Yes, sorry, H3.0 Drive (so it's the Pro)

For a foot of your size there really is no benefit/difference from H2 to H3... H3 came out purely as a solution to deal with large footprint boots that were at the "in between" size range for their bindings.

Actually, H2 heelcup is way too narrow for my 7.5 Infuse in a size s, and mediums are way too big. IIRC H3 heelcup is wider and I have been looking forward to try decently stiff H3 bindings in size s for like 2 years now. Probably gonna give the Mercurys a try this year if I can sell off my other bindings...

Infuse have one of the largest footprints so that makes sense and I believe that’s why they created the H3 - to accommodate boots like 32 and Vans which have large footprints.

[benjinyc]

As for JJ, he asked to borrow a Mantaray for a few days before a trade show, but actually sent it to the factory in Europe where they copied it. And he didn't give it back in time for the trade show. Total dick move.

Wow

the other stuff I heard about JJ didn't bother me so much, but this is f'd up

[pow_hnd]

Yes, sorry, H3.0 Drive (so it's the Pro)

For a foot of your size there really is no benefit/difference from H2 to H3... H3 came out purely as a solution to deal with large footprint boots that were at the "in between" size range for their bindings.

Actually, H2 heelcup is way too narrow for my 7.5 Infuse in a size s, and mediums are way too big. IIRC H3 heelcup is wider and I have been looking forward to try decently stiff H3 bindings in size s for like 2 years now. Probably gonna give the Mercurys a try this year if I can sell off my other bindings...

H3 and H2 have the same size heel cups, it's only the sidewalls that changed, they dropped them down. I am 1000% positive on this.

[Dave T]

This is correct. There’s a photo in the Japanese catalog with measurements. I tried/measured both H2 and H3s with my infuses. They’re the same width in the heelcup and middle part. H2 is straighter so it ends up being slightly narrower at toes.

[C.Fuzzy]

News from Bataleon - from 24/25 season they will offer .. snowboots !

triple base boots? to ease jibbing?

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[yukinori]

He’s been making out like he invented snow surf through some kind of rootsy epiphany somewhere between a beach in Cali and a chairlift in Tahoe. Totally disregarding that it has been the core of snowboarding in Japan since day one. I believe the correct term is cultural appropriation.

Every other brand I can think of that has copied the Japanese style of shaping has at least given the board a name and/or graphics that acknowledge where it came from.

Snow surf was happening in France in 1983 and was influenced by the earlier Wintersticks, so you can't really say 'snow surf' is a Japanese invention. I don't think cultural appropriation is the correct term. Personally, the graphics of the Weston Japow make me cringe, and the Lib Tech Mayhem swallowtail....but the Japanese like it, so they're not offended in any way.

As for JJ, he asked to borrow a Mantaray for a few days before a trade show, but actually sent it to the factory in Europe where they copied it. And he didn't give it back in time for the trade show. Total dick move.
The stormchaser is quite similar to the TJ Napoleon Fish but I think that is just an 'inspired by' story. Christensen has connections with Japan too.
I also heard that JJ was approached by Nidecker to make Jones. As in, they identified a gap in the 'backcountry' market and looked around for the right guy to do it.
Swinging back to Gentemstick, Taro Tamai told me that Terje & JG came to see him and then a year or two later the Burton Fish came out. Actually, come to think of it, I can check if that's true.

I think cultural appropriation might be overshooting it... but maybe NOT because the "snow surf" approach has always been a part of Japanese snowboarding since the 80's? you mightve seen a few fish shaped boards at a mountain (if any) in N.A. or EU 15 years ago but hit a small unknown mountain in Japan then and you wouldve seen MANY.

[pow_hnd]

He’s been making out like he invented snow surf through some kind of rootsy epiphany somewhere between a beach in Cali and a chairlift in Tahoe. Totally disregarding that it has been the core of snowboarding in Japan since day one. I believe the correct term is cultural appropriation.

Every other brand I can think of that has copied the Japanese style of shaping has at least given the board a name and/or graphics that acknowledge where it came from.

Snow surf was happening in France in 1983 and was influenced by the earlier Wintersticks, so you can't really say 'snow surf' is a Japanese invention. I don't think cultural appropriation is the correct term. Personally, the graphics of the Weston Japow make me cringe, and the Lib Tech Mayhem swallowtail....but the Japanese like it, so they're not offended in any way.

As for JJ, he asked to borrow a Mantaray for a few days before a trade show, but actually sent it to the factory in Europe where they copied it. And he didn't give it back in time for the trade show. Total dick move.
The stormchaser is quite similar to the TJ Napoleon Fish but I think that is just an 'inspired by' story. Christensen has connections with Japan too.
I also heard that JJ was approached by Nidecker to make Jones. As in, they identified a gap in the 'backcountry' market and looked around for the right guy to do it.
Swinging back to Gentemstick, Taro Tamai told me that Terje & JG came to see him and then a year or two later the Burton Fish came out. Actually, come to think of it, I can check if that's true.

I think cultural appropriation might be overshooting it... but maybe NOT because the "snow surf" approach has always been a part of Japanese snowboarding since the 80's? you mightve seen a few fish shaped boards at a mountain (if any) in N.A. or EU 15 years ago but hit a small unknown mountain in Japan then and you wouldve seen MANY.

You may want to pause for a second and investigate https://all-extreme.com/snowboarding-di ... ilovich-2/ Dimitrije Milovich