The boot thread

[scrub]

I though the Infuse were annoying as fuck to try on between the fabric flap, the laces only halfway up and then the powerstrap. They didn't fit me well anyway which is a shame because I love their team and the boots look great.

[michaelangelo]

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you ain’t wrong about that

[Gammalteknologi]

Time to retire my Hi-standard pros after maybe 50 days.
got about 30 days of perfect comfort, support and freedom of movement.
Decided to try something else so i ordered a pair of Ride Fuse.
Hoping to get more life out of them than the vans since they're stiffer.
Wish me luck

[tracer]

I have a pair of the Iguchi Vans Verse incoming.
I just hope the 10.5 fit (I ride Burton 10, everyday shoes, including various Vans, are 10.5).

[tracer]

I have a pair of the Iguchi Vans Verse incoming.
I just hope the 10.5 fit (I ride Burton 10, everyday shoes, including various Vans, are 10.5).

Picked em yesterday. Vans definitely changed the lasting or whatever cause these fit like a glove. Have only worn them at home so far, but yeah. No pressure on sides, wiggle room for toes. The Verse I had a few years back were waaay tighter.

They are however also 300g (10 oz) / boot heavier than the Burton Tourists, and don't have a heel welt for semi-automatic crampons, nor heel brake. Not everyone needs those, but I do like at least a bit of heel brake sometimes.

Looking forward to getting back up there to try them out. Heatwave just kicked in, so it may be a few days yet.

[tracer]

I have a pair of the Iguchi Vans Verse incoming.
I just hope the 10.5 fit (I ride Burton 10, everyday shoes, including various Vans, are 10.5).

Picked em yesterday. Vans definitely changed the lasting or whatever cause these fit like a glove. Have only worn them at home so far, but yeah. No pressure on sides, wiggle room for toes. The Verse I had a few years back were waaay tighter.

They are however also 300g (10 oz) / boot heavier than the Burton Tourists, and don't have a heel welt for semi-automatic crampons, nor heel brake. Not everyone needs those, but I do like at least a bit of heel brake sometimes.

Looking forward to getting back up there to try them out. Heatwave just kicked in, so it may be a few days yet.

Very very bummed.
Turns out Vans' lasting for these really did get drastically changed.
As I've mentioned numerous times here, the size 10.5 US 2018-19 Vans Verse were really tight. I finally broke them in somewhat but when tailor bunions appeared during a tour, I sold em.
I've been on Burton (Tourist) US size 10 since, and they fit great.
My normal shoe size is 10.5. Vans, Nike, Adidas, etc… always 10.5. So going to 10 in Burton was a surprise.

Anyways, so I hear Vans changed their lasting and had been eyeing the Verse Range edition for like 2 seasons. Finally got 'em.
US size 10.5. Old 10.5's were tight, all my Vans street shoes/boots are 10.5… they fixed their lasting… this should be good.
Tried em on twice before heading out and was really pleased at how comfy they felt.

And then I took em out.

After about 10 steps, I realize: these boots are too big! Like, way too big. Toes are floating around. Heel is lifting. Cranking down the BOAs until the cuff is tight does nothing for the toes and heels, deforms the boot, and jams the tongue stiffeners into my forefoot.

@pow_hnd I know you just sold yours citing sizing issues. Obvs we all have different feet, but we may also have been duped by weird sizing.
Unfortunately, I'm not gonna risk ordering size 10s to find out (at least not while I'm in Japan).

I soooo wanted to love these boots.

Ah well.

[pow_hnd]

I have a pair of the Iguchi Vans Verse incoming.
I just hope the 10.5 fit (I ride Burton 10, everyday shoes, including various Vans, are 10.5).

Picked em yesterday. Vans definitely changed the lasting or whatever cause these fit like a glove. Have only worn them at home so far, but yeah. No pressure on sides, wiggle room for toes. The Verse I had a few years back were waaay tighter.

They are however also 300g (10 oz) / boot heavier than the Burton Tourists, and don't have a heel welt for semi-automatic crampons, nor heel brake. Not everyone needs those, but I do like at least a bit of heel brake sometimes.

Looking forward to getting back up there to try them out. Heatwave just kicked in, so it may be a few days yet.

Very very bummed.
Turns out Vans' lasting for these really did get drastically changed.
As I've mentioned numerous times here, the size 10.5 US 2018-19 Vans Verse were really tight. I finally broke them in somewhat but when tailor bunions appeared during a tour, I sold em.
I've been on Burton (Tourist) US size 10 since, and they fit great.
My normal shoe size is 10.5. Vans, Nike, Adidas, etc… always 10.5. So going to 10 in Burton was a surprise.

Anyways, so I hear Vans changed their lasting and had been eyeing the Verse Range edition for like 2 seasons. Finally got 'em.
US size 10.5. Old 10.5's were tight, all my Vans street shoes/boots are 10.5… they fixed their lasting… this should be good.
Tried em on twice before heading out and was really pleased at how comfy they felt.

And then I took em out.

After about 10 steps, I realize: these boots are too big! Like, way too big. Toes are floating around. Heel is lifting. Cranking down the BOAs until the cuff is tight does nothing for the toes and heels, deforms the boot, and jams the tongue stiffeners into my forefoot.

@pow_hnd I know you just sold yours citing sizing issues. Obvs we all have different feet, but we may also have been duped by weird sizing.
Unfortunately, I'm not gonna risk ordering size 10s to find out (at least not while I'm in Japan).

I soooo wanted to love these boots.

Ah well.

I had the exact same experience. Just could not get them tight enough, tried various boot fitting techniques, but at the end of the day, the volume on these is just massive. biggest issue for me was the top of the boot no matter how much I tightened the top BOA I still had a ton of slop at the top of the boot where your shin is. Was so bummed because they were so excellent on the way up.

[kimchi]

Sigh it's funny / annoying to me even after riding for closer to 20 years, I still fuck up boot fit occasionally because I don't really know how a boot feels until I put it to snow a few times. And I know @pow_hnd has substantially more seasons under his belt than I do, and most likely @tracer does as well.

[ZeroK]

I tried to get a "performance" fit for the first time this season, picking up a pair of TM-2s half a size down from my mondo point size. They were tight of course before and after heat molding but seemed like they might work after a break-in. After 2 runs in them, I thought the nails on my big toes were going to fall off. It sucks because I did legitimately have a level of precision and response I've never had otherwise.

There's so much room to improve the snowboard boot-fitting process that I'm amazed no one has stepped in to make improvements. Things like an instep/volume measurement like in ski boots, or just listing the actual shell internal lengths and widths and liner thickness would be a huge step up. Some kind of 3D scan system should be in the realm of possibility by now. Then again maybe it doesn't matter to brands or most shops if you buy a pair of boots and realize they don't work, either after a couple of runs or a week and maybe the manufacturing tolerances are too big for any of that to be reliable (or even potentially even a bit embarrassing for brands).

[eleveneightnate]

I tried to get a "performance" fit for the first time this season, picking up a pair of TM-2s half a size down from my mondo point size. They were tight of course before and after heat molding but seemed like they might work after a break-in. After 2 runs in them, I thought the nails on my big toes were going to fall off. It sucks because I did legitimately have a level of precision and response I've never had otherwise.

32's liners are so ungodly stiff these days. I don't see how they could ever be comfortable. Earlier in this thread I had tried some of this season's TM2 wide BOAs and they were like putting my feet in cinder blocks.