The Step On thread

[dpartridge7]

I wonder if it would make sense to have a din setting release thing like ski bindings? Not even joking here. The above situation is perfect case where it would be better if the bindings disengaged on impact rather than breaking.

that would be so heavy....

or you could stick with 2 straps bindings like most advanced riders that do heavy cliff drops

Well yes, that would be one solution.

I was more suggesting that if Burton/Step-on are trying to make their system the industry norm then some sort of release mechanism that activates under the heaviest of impacts might make sense. Something that kicks in before your boots break would be nice.

oh...i see now. pro's competing in big air with their step-ons (because step-ons have become the standard), landing a 50ft jump, there is a high chance one of their heavy bindings will release their boot. sounds more like jackass than big air.

[C.Fuzzy]

In my mind the cure for this is just continued consideration and iterations of the system towards increasing the robustness of heel attachment or less downward sheer force on that screw (if that's what contributed here, idk).

Compared to traditional bindings its a relatively new system, and trad bindings have went though 50 years of product development, with many many failures.

I've had countless failures of heelcups breaking, straps breaking, ratchets, highbacks, so on and so forth. Not to forget great products like baseless bindings, flip-claps on the straps (before ratchets) and the like.

The first iteration of Now bindings had a well known and documented issue with ladders breaking... and that wasn't launching off shit, that was just them breaking for no real reason at all. I had to ride down from the top of Bohemia with just a toe strap because of that particular issue.

My point is both that equipment failures happen regardless, and traditional bindings have the benefit of a much much longer R&D, and still shit breaks.

[jota]

In my mind the cure for this is just continued consideration and iterations of the system towards increasing the robustness of heel attachment or less downward sheer force on that screw (if that's what contributed here, idk).

Compared to traditional bindings its a relatively new system, and trad bindings have went though 50 years of product development, with many many failures.

I've had countless failures of heelcups breaking, straps breaking, ratchets, highbacks, so on and so forth. Not to forget great products like baseless bindings, flip-claps on the straps (before ratchets) and the like.

The first iteration of Now bindings had a well known and documented issue with ladders breaking... and that wasn't launching off shit, that was just them breaking for no real reason at all. I had to ride down from the top of Bohemia with just a toe strap because of that particular issue.

My point is both that equipment failures happen regardless, and traditional bindings have the benefit of a much much longer R&D, and still shit breaks.

I totally agree

Adding to that there is something more, that someone mentioned and that is that professionals need to learn the movements again to adapt them to the different dynamics of step on. It’s true. A professional needs security and confidence to go further. Learning to adapt to a system again does not generate security to do the same tricks that they can do now, and means going backwards. And no one wants to start again.. It’s better to continue with the system you have, know and are used to.

To see professionals doing incredible things with step on we will need to wait years for the new riders who are now starting with step on to reach the professional category.

[eleveneightnate]

One thing's for certain: Step On's release lever would not jive with Shaun's boot grabs.

[C.Fuzzy]

One thing's for certain: Step On's release lever would not jive with Shaun's boot grabs.

New trick: release, 1 foot mcmeatball, stomp back in on landing...

Profit

[jclinares]

New trick: release, 1 foot mcmeatball, stomp back in on landing...

Profit

I bet they wanted Scott Stevens to promote the new bindings that way, and that's when he said "I'm out"

[casjcade]

One thing's for certain: Step On's release lever would not jive with Shaun's boot grabs.

I was on the frontside wall once, gonna tweak out a stylish bootfish, missed and hit my ankle strap. Awkward landing.

[Blessed420]

Did that on sunday, tried to grab stalefish on the jump and when releasing right hand i just heard the ratchet pop open landed and stopping i noticed it had open all the way only toestrap was closed

[drmoebius]

Well yes, that would be one solution.

I was more suggesting that if Burton/Step-on are trying to make their system the industry norm then some sort of release mechanism that activates under the heaviest of impacts might make sense. Something that kicks in before your boots break would be nice.

oh...i see now. pro's competing in big air with their step-ons (because step-ons have become the standard), landing a 50ft jump, there is a high chance one of their heavy bindings will release their boot. sounds more like jackass than big air.

since there was the comparison to ski-bindings and their release mechanism: It's not like ski bindings do not have a customizable release point. The skiers that do racing (and I guess freestyle dudes as well) have their release point set to an amount of force where the average skier would already have a broken leg. Just to be clear: I am not saying that I want this for snowboarding, but for ski-bindings that customization is basically a screw. The whole release mechanisms definitely adds weight, but I don't think the customization is to blame here.

[C.Fuzzy]

I'm down to watch jackass big air. Jus sayn