peruna wrote: Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:22 am
So I'm probably stupid. Now that that's out of the way, do I need special hardware to mount my Rome Cleavers to my Gril Master?
There was no shorter hardware in the Rome box, but the discs also don't compensate for screw length in the channel holes like some other bindings do (by making the disc thicker effectively shortening the screws). I haven't tried just mounting them because I'm kind of ham fisted and don't want to bottom the screws in the channel due to my previously mentioned stupidity. Anybody got any advice before I just fire them on there and crank screws down and see what happens?
For what it's worth Rome was absolutely useless and told me "Good question we don't know. Maybe stop by your local shop and get channel hardware because we don't make any because we don't have boards with the channel."
Burton hardware is M6x13 mm., and all other non-channel bindings are M6x16 mm.
Usually bindings come with both sets of hardware, so it's pretty annoying that Rome's don't. But you can get Burton hardware online or at any board shop.
It's not quite as you write. For Union you only have one set of screws, and their size is: M6 x 14mm.
There are actually two sets of washers. For Channel Burton you mount the screws using single standard washers, and for classic inserts 4 large Power Washers and 8 screws
So was at Baldface, everything was peachy. Day 4 I get stuck in my bindings. Get the rumored, and now confirmed true, Double Take snow/ice clogging on the ratchet and it not releasing. Have to undo the ankle strap from the slider to get out. Binding rides up front on the heater. Still won't open. Fuck, we the roll with back up setup they keep in the cat. It's a deck I have no fucking desire to try, so I rip the bindings off and and mount them on my deck. They are their Baldface Union Falcors. I wasn't happy. Have not had any good experiences with Union.
They are fucking incredible. Like it made my snowboard ride better kinda incredible. They are the new Falcon base plate with Strata highbacks.
I was so in awe of them. After a brief discussion with Jeff, home I came with a pair.
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pow_hnd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:06 pm
They are fucking incredible. Like it made my snowboard ride better kinda incredible. They are the new Falcon base plate with Strata highbacks.
I was so in awe of them. After a brief discussion with Jeff, home I came with a pair.
pow_hnd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:06 pm
They are fucking incredible. Like it made my snowboard ride better kinda incredible. They are the new Falcon base plate with Strata highbacks.
I was so in awe of them. After a brief discussion with Jeff, home I came with a pair.
but where did skate tech go???
Skate Tech isn't what did it for me, it was the higher heel cup that put the ankle strap in the perfect place for me, and the incredible dampness. Obviously I wasn't that enamored with them, I changed all the straps to Burton to make them good.
SLC, UT - Cardiff Snowcraft - Union - Spark R & D - AK457 - DC - Dang - Milosport -
pow_hnd wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:06 pm
They are fucking incredible. Like it made my snowboard ride better kinda incredible. They are the new Falcon base plate with Strata highbacks.
I was so in awe of them. After a brief discussion with Jeff, home I came with a pair.
but where did skate tech go???
Skate Tech isn't what did it for me, it was the higher heel cup that put the ankle strap in the perfect place for me, and the incredible dampness. Obviously I wasn't that enamored with them, I changed all the straps to Burton to make them good.
The ankle strap is important to me too. The old Burtons had three points for ankle strap position but the ESTs only had one (except the X) and it was never a position I liked.
Jones/Now were great for surf and freeride mode…
A lot of people say Union are the best.. but I never tested them