Check out my new...

[C.Fuzzy]

At that price if they had an 8.5/medium combo I would have been sorely tempted too.

Yeah, pretty hard to pass up!

I had already picked up some to try over summer, but I had got the swath so I got down on that Photons deal. I do not plan to become a step on guy. Expect it to feel goofy But I could see it being convenient for tow rope laps.

So, somewhat interesting development.

Like I said I had previously got the swath SOs. I had tried them on and they we're fine as far as the brief try on fit. at least I don't recall anything being too off about how they felt.

I got the photon yesterday SOs thinking they'd be something similar but stiffer.... aaaaannnndddd... multiple points of discomfort. Especially in the ankle area. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. I couldn't wait to get the boot off my foot.

I'm going to need to do a more thorough fitting to see if I can figure that out. Definitely going to do a AB test with both boots too.

But damn. Pretty disappointing.

/endRant

[eleveneightnate]

So, somewhat interesting development.

Like I said I had previously got the swath SOs. I had tried them on and they we're fine as far as the brief try on fit. at least I don't recall anything being too off about how they felt.

I got the photon yesterday SOs thinking they'd be something similar but stiffer.... aaaaannnndddd... multiple points of discomfort. Especially in the ankle area. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. I couldn't wait to get the boot off my foot.

I'm going to need to do a more thorough fitting to see if I can figure that out. Definitely going to do a AB test with both boots too.

But damn. Pretty disappointing.

/endRant

Damn, that sucks. I've always found Burton boots to have a pretty consistent fit across the lineup. These Photon SOs I got feel exactly like my Imperials in the ankle and heel, just more room in the toes because they're wides.

What's the condition like? Maybe they're just molded to someone's weird foot or something.

[coleslawed]

Like I said I had previously got the swath SOs. I had tried them on and they we're fine as far as the brief try on fit. at least I don't recall anything being too off about how they felt.

I got the photon yesterday SOs thinking they'd be something similar but stiffer.... aaaaannnndddd... multiple points of discomfort. Especially in the ankle area. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. I couldn't wait to get the boot off my foot.

I'm going to need to do a more thorough fitting to see if I can figure that out. Definitely going to do a AB test with both boots too.

But damn. Pretty disappointing.

/endRant

this was my experience demoing the Ion SO’s, but I’ve had a pleasant time in my DC Judge SO boots.

[C.Fuzzy]

So, somewhat interesting development.

Like I said I had previously got the swath SOs. I had tried them on and they we're fine as far as the brief try on fit. at least I don't recall anything being too off about how they felt.

I got the photon yesterday SOs thinking they'd be something similar but stiffer.... aaaaannnndddd... multiple points of discomfort. Especially in the ankle area. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. I couldn't wait to get the boot off my foot.

I'm going to need to do a more thorough fitting to see if I can figure that out. Definitely going to do a AB test with both boots too.

But damn. Pretty disappointing.

/endRant

Damn, that sucks. I've always found Burton boots to have a pretty consistent fit across the lineup. These Photon SOs I got feel exactly like my Imperials in the ankle and heel, just more room in the toes because they're wides.

What's the condition like? Maybe they're just molded to someone's weird foot or something.

The Photons seemed to have a built in Jbar and ankle cup... which doesn't play well with the shape of my foot. It just felt like my ankle didn't fit into where they built it to fit and my bony ankle was digging in to the padding and the jbars were digging into my heel. Sometimes you have to walk in a boot to get the foot to settle in, but when I did that it felt even worse. So. idk.

Going to pull the foot pad and liner and see how it fits without the shell. etc. etc.

edit: I do not believe they're preformed to someone elses foot bc 1.) there's very little noticable wear on them and 2.) this is not an unusual occurrence for my feet. It's a lifelong sort of thing, and why I basically have always stuck to (the best boots made) northwaves.

[eleveneightnate]

So, somewhat interesting development.

Like I said I had previously got the swath SOs. I had tried them on and they we're fine as far as the brief try on fit. at least I don't recall anything being too off about how they felt.

I got the photon yesterday SOs thinking they'd be something similar but stiffer.... aaaaannnndddd... multiple points of discomfort. Especially in the ankle area. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. I couldn't wait to get the boot off my foot.

I'm going to need to do a more thorough fitting to see if I can figure that out. Definitely going to do a AB test with both boots too.

But damn. Pretty disappointing.

/endRant

Damn, that sucks. I've always found Burton boots to have a pretty consistent fit across the lineup. These Photon SOs I got feel exactly like my Imperials in the ankle and heel, just more room in the toes because they're wides.

What's the condition like? Maybe they're just molded to someone's weird foot or something.

The Photons seemed to have a built in Jbar and ankle cup... which doesn't play well with the shape of my foot. It just felt like my ankle didn't fit into where they built it to fit and my bony ankle was digging in to the padding and the jbars were digging into my heel. Sometimes you have to walk in a boot to get the foot to settle in, but when I did that it felt even worse. So. idk.

Going to pull the foot pad and liner and see how it fits without the shell. etc. etc.

edit: I do not believe they're preformed to someone elses foot bc 1.) there's very little noticable wear on them and 2.) this is not an unusual occurrence for my feet. It's a lifelong sort of thing, and why I basically have always stuck to (the best boots made) northwaves.

Yeah, the liners have a denser foam running vertically in the ankle area. Might be worth checking if someone actually put the little velcro j-bars in yours where they attach to the inner harness. Mine don't have any, but you never know.

Feets is weird, man. The good news is that at $92 you can flip them for probably a 3x profit.

[Shredder]

Yeah, pretty hard to pass up!

I had already picked up some to try over summer, but I had got the swath so I got down on that Photons deal. I do not plan to become a step on guy. Expect it to feel goofy But I could see it being convenient for tow rope laps.

So, somewhat interesting development.

Like I said I had previously got the swath SOs. I had tried them on and they we're fine as far as the brief try on fit. at least I don't recall anything being too off about how they felt.

I got the photon yesterday SOs thinking they'd be something similar but stiffer.... aaaaannnndddd... multiple points of discomfort. Especially in the ankle area. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. I couldn't wait to get the boot off my foot.

I'm going to need to do a more thorough fitting to see if I can figure that out. Definitely going to do a AB test with both boots too.

But damn. Pretty disappointing.

/endRant

I tried some S/O boots on in NZ when I was there out of interest. I tried the Nitro options- speed lace and boa, I can’t remember the names. Both felt quite comfy and more heel lock than the photons I tried too. Worth a try if you can find some.

[Shredder]

Picked up a new US Deep Reach 159

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[Canuck]

Went into my local shop to get my kid some new boots.
I demoed the moderator in the spring and really enjoyed it so figured why not the price was right. So then I walked out with a deep fake too ha.I think it was like 2001 since I last owned a ride board.

[C.Fuzzy]

Damn, that sucks. I've always found Burton boots to have a pretty consistent fit across the lineup. These Photon SOs I got feel exactly like my Imperials in the ankle and heel, just more room in the toes because they're wides.

What's the condition like? Maybe they're just molded to someone's weird foot or something.

The Photons seemed to have a built in Jbar and ankle cup... which doesn't play well with the shape of my foot. It just felt like my ankle didn't fit into where they built it to fit and my bony ankle was digging in to the padding and the jbars were digging into my heel. Sometimes you have to walk in a boot to get the foot to settle in, but when I did that it felt even worse. So. idk.

Going to pull the foot pad and liner and see how it fits without the shell. etc. etc.

edit: I do not believe they're preformed to someone elses foot bc 1.) there's very little noticable wear on them and 2.) this is not an unusual occurrence for my feet. It's a lifelong sort of thing, and why I basically have always stuck to (the best boots made) northwaves.

Yeah, the liners have a denser foam running vertically in the ankle area. Might be worth checking if someone actually put the little velcro j-bars in yours where they attach to the inner harness. Mine don't have any, but you never know.

Feets is weird, man. The good news is that at $92 you can flip them for probably a 3x profit.

I'm sure everyone is on the edge of their seat for an update on my boot fitting, right? right?

Okay. Probably not. But here it is anyhow.

I went back and tried on the Swath. Felt much more comfortable. But the Swath 1/2 a size smaller than the Photons and wearing one on each foot I realized that I actually need the bigger Photon.

So then I thought, since the Swath liner feels better I'd see how they'd feel if I put the Swath liner in the Photon shell. Thinking maybe the issue is the liner, or maybe it's actually the shell.

So I did that and it actually felt better. So... then I was considering just swapping them and offloading the Swath with the Photon liner. But, that might present a problem since technically I'd be selling a bigger liner in a smaller shell. Whos going to go for that?

So I thought, maybe I can just buy a new swath liner in the right size from B. So I'm looking at the swath liner to try and figure out what to even buy if they'd sell me one... and it's a Imprint 3. Okay. cool.

OH BUT WAIT...

The Photon liner is ALSO an Imprint 3! They're the same damn liner! I looked at them side by side and inside and out and there's no real difference between them.

sooo.... I started feeling a bit cray. Or what I actually think is the swath had more use and the liner was more broke in.

So I'm just going to ride the Photon and I think it'll break in. eventually. hopefully. maybe.

The end.

Everyone please clap

[eleveneightnate]

I'm sure everyone is on the edge of their seat for an update on my boot fitting, right? right?

Okay. Probably not. But here it is anyhow.

I went back and tried on the Swath. Felt much more comfortable. But the Swath 1/2 a size smaller than the Photons and wearing one on each foot I realized that I actually need the bigger Photon.

So then I thought, since the Swath liner feels better I'd see how they'd feel if I put the Swath liner in the Photon shell. Thinking maybe the issue is the liner, or maybe it's actually the shell.

So I did that and it actually felt better. So... then I was considering just swapping them and offloading the Swath with the Photon liner. But, that might present a problem since technically I'd be selling a bigger liner in a smaller shell. Whos going to go for that?

So I thought, maybe I can just buy a new swath liner in the right size from B. So I'm looking at the swath liner to try and figure out what to even buy if they'd sell me one... and it's a Imprint 3. Okay. cool.

OH BUT WAIT...

The Photon liner is ALSO an Imprint 3! They're the same damn liner! I looked at them side by side and inside and out and there's no real difference between them.

sooo.... I started feeling a bit cray. Or what I actually think is the swath had more use and the liner was more broke in.

So I'm just going to ride the Photon and I think it'll break in. eventually. hopefully. maybe.

The end.

Everyone please clap

Haha I mean, I kinda was on the edge of my seat and I think that says a lot about my nerdy gear obsession.

I usually don't heat mold, but maybe this is a situation that calls for it? Fast track those first few uncomfortable days. Burton boots definitely seem to cater to people with narrow achilles, I can feel those areas you're talking about when I put mine on. For whatever reason, it doesn't bother me when I'm riding, though.