United Shapes

[Spenser]

This cadet is definitely stiffer. Feels very planted, stabile and powerful. Surely stiff enough for me, a bit more than the koruas on snow. In a linear-flex-scale sense, transmission being a 9 and this being a 6 is just wrong. Makes more sense as a "feel" scale, but I'd still give it an easy 7.5. It's slushy today, so hard to say how I would feel about the sidecut in general, but it does feel like it's on the freeride end, down the fall line, rather than always wanting to make quick turns. 7.9 on paper, but if I had to guess based on everything else I know, I would guess low 8 after today. Would 100% buy one, but at this point not looking to add any more boards. Great deck in my opinion.

[kimchi]

Classic Cadet (2018) will always have a soft spot in my heart. "Wrong" for me in many ways-- sidecut radius hair too tight, light on effective edge, nose little soft--but I really dialed in what I liked and didn't in a board on the Cadet. And had an epic trip to Jackson on it.

Cadet guts, burlier nose, with more of an Orbit shape and profile between contact points and full nose and tail would be a winner for me.

[Spenser]

Anyone who liked older cadets but felt they're a bit soft should be stoked the European ones.

If the 2019 I have were as stiff as this one, I'd actually ride it

[Shredder]

I still have a 2020 all black one unridden.

[alex]

Tomorrow's ride, new cadet 62. Zoe's boyfriend brought it, and he's going to try my new TF.

Feels a bit stiffer than my 2019, which is the right direction for my taste

A friend of the US guys I know said "the carbon layup on the European built board is considerably wider than on the A11X cores from GP87. I think they're more stable now at high speed"


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From your photo looks like Cadet actually had adequate front contact points previously, so they intentionally removed those and made it IMHO terrible for carving turn initiation (at least for my riding). I thought that the only possible explanation for contactless nose is very old design, but apparently not.

For example Burton Straight Chutter has almost sharp front contact points (plus completely radial sidecut, not “parabolic”) and I didn’t notice any disadvantage in soft snow, but huge advantage while carving.

Btw, Korua Otto seem to have similar “contactless” nose and Korua fans seem to love it, yet another warning sign that Korua may not be correct board for my riding.

[Spenser]

I'm not totally sure what you're looking at. Laying them over each other, they're nearly identical. Maybe the new one is a tiny bit more smooth at the contact? I like a smooth contact, and find "sharp" or abrupt ones to be a lesser performing design in general, but to each their own.

[alex]

Yes, this is what I am talking about, front contact points on new one look smoother and on old one those look more aggressive, although it is not obvious from the photo. This is what I dislike in my Cadet.

I fell in love with aggressive contact points with Burton Sensei 170 with highly oval sidecut (which also makes contacts aggressive) and Transmission just blew my mind with aggressive contact points (and slightly oval sidecut).

I do not like smooth / easy contacts, typical example Rossignol Sashimi (although great board for backcountry ) or more open toward contact points (parabolic) sidecuts, even slightly so, as on Amplid Pentaquark.

[benjinyc]

had an epic trip to Jackson on it.

Cadet (154) was my go-to during my Jackson hole trip. I find it to be incredible stiff both longitudinally and torsionally... it was great to feel how well it held when side slipping down some steep icy rutted out couloirs and chutes.

never used the deep days inserts, riding in steep pow was fine. just kinda reconfirmed that powboards are unnecessary
in steep terrain for me.

I carve icy groomers on it back east and like it better than my cafe racer on the narrower runs too. the laters sidecut would better for stuff out west.

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[benjinyc]

This cadet is definitely stiffer. In a linear-flex-scale sense, transmission being a 9 and this being a 6 is just wrong. Makes more sense as a "feel" scale, but I'd still give it an easy 7.5.

like I would love to get a transmission but I don't think there'd be noticeable diff to me, is the latter that much more stiff?, I dont think id take advantage of the sidecut either out east

[Spenser]

This cadet is definitely stiffer. In a linear-flex-scale sense, transmission being a 9 and this being a 6 is just wrong. Makes more sense as a "feel" scale, but I'd still give it an easy 7.5.

like I would love to get a transmission but I don't think there'd be noticeable diff to me, is the latter that much more stiff?, I dont think id take advantage of the sidecut either out east

Definitely a different board. Stiffer, wider, a good amount more edge and full camber, with bigger sidecut, etc. The 54 TM is a lot more board than the cadet 54. It's comparable in size to cadet 62, but still a bit more aggressive and different ride.

My point wasn't that they were comparable, just that the new cadet is stiffer than I thought it would be, based on their flex ratings and how my 2019 feels. I'm surprising myself by saying this, but if the tighter (compared to my normal preference) cadet sidecut worked out for me on hardpack, it could be a replacement for the way I use the orbit (daily driver freeride board with low taper).