Wire brush is before you wax, use it to remove residue and to clean the structure so it will accept all new wax. Tip to tail.
Then wax.
Then scrape.
Then nylon brush, tip to tail.
I wouldn't cork. That is really only for race setups or if you're dry waxing. A cork will remove wax and flatten your structure.
If you were to do anything else after the nylon, it would be horsehair. But again, kind of a racing thing.
Toko introduces the copper before waxing and after scraping . @pow_hnd Do you think it can work with the IR waxer?
And do you think wire or copper is better?
So tuning and waxing is as much of an art as it is a science…
With that in mind, you can talk to five different expert level pro tuners/techs and get five different answers.
I’d doubt there’s much difference between brass or copper. Both are metal and much stiffer than nylon.
I have no idea if my way is the right way. It’s the way I was trained and just the way I do it.
I will say that I got my training here in SLC at Wintersteiger. If you spent big bucks with them on machines you were able to go to their tuning/tech/repair academy. Our shop and sibling ski shop had a bunch of machines and spent big bucks so I went for like three or four years in a row. The person who taught the class was a World Cup tech. That doesn’t make his way the right way, it’s just the way I learned.
That was 20+ years ago so techniques/best practices for sure could have changed and evolved since then.
Honestly, unless you’re racing, some of the finer details don’t really matter that much, I’d say just making sure to regularly wax your board will make much more of a difference than doing it perfectly say only twice a season.
Although I have Phantom, and am still absolutely 110% sold on it and its benefits, I still wax basically after every ride. Even at Baldface earlier this month I headed down to the wax room and waxed my deck every night.
I’d say since Phantom the thing that has changed is I now use Hertel all temp and no longer worry about having the “correct” wax for the day.
The IR waxer is still an experiment at this point, FYI. It gets pretty hot on your hand when your wax brick gets small. Hard to say if it will be my permanent method of wax application at this point, but we’ll see.
@pow_hnd thank you! I know that you (and many EL riders) have the knowledge but also the experience. I wax before every trip… hot wax But I want to improve my part of preparing the base. Many years ago I didn’t have the knowledge and I did things poorly (not scraping…not brush… ). Then I dedicated myself to waxing and simple scraping and brushing. But now I like to spend time on this part and know more… . It is what marks the beginning of the journey…
Just got a deck back from a belt grind...It always reinvigorates wanting to ride a board for me. The clean slate makes home waxing/tuning a LOT more enjoyable as well.
He helped me get a sidecut brand "starter" kit, and it's been fun. I used it on my orbit, and although it didn't feel much different to my fingers, I noticed some kind of boost on edge precision on snow. I was also impressed with how much it brought my cadet rock board edges back to life. I have 10 cut and maybe 14 or 15 cut files, both guides, 200/400/600 diamonds, and a stone.
I'm getting ready to order some Hertel all-temp wax, but do any of you guys know if Hertel is the super-toxic stuff where you need to wear a respirator and a haz-mat suit?
I like the idea of being the fastest guy on the hill, but not really down with growing an extra limb or developing lesions on my cock or whatever.
SJF_NH wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:26 pm
I'm getting ready to order some Hertel all-temp wax, but do any of you guys know if Hertel is the super-toxic stuff where you need to wear a respirator and a haz-mat suit?
I like the idea of being the fastest guy on the hill, but not really down with growing an extra limb or developing lesions on my cock or whatever.
Sure the lesions on my tictac suck, but I'm the first one down...soo..... worth it!
SJF_NH wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:26 pm
I'm getting ready to order some Hertel all-temp wax, but do any of you guys know if Hertel is the super-toxic stuff where you need to wear a respirator and a haz-mat suit?
I like the idea of being the fastest guy on the hill, but not really down with growing an extra limb or developing lesions on my cock or whatever.
Full safe and Biodegradable.
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